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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
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 Posted - 04/14/2009 : 16:46:15
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I found this cool article on a different forum, about how those guys in the old days used their guitar controls to switch between sounds with single channel, non master volume amps.
I tend to do that a lot more these days, cleaning up the sound with my volume control, darkening it a bit with the tone control if the song requires so, etc.
I also found this works a lot better with a tube amp instead of a transistor amp, some pedals will clean up nicely while others don't.
I also depends on how high you have your gain dialed in.
http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/tonefreaks/23112-how-did-classic-rock-players-like-jimmy-page-use-their-guitar-controls.html |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 04/14/2009 : 17:27:31
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Hi Dirk & Guys
Thanks for posting this link.
It's kind of what I do anyway.
I have most of my guitars wired to roll off the treble, when I back off on the volume.
It's surprising how well these old techniques work.
But then again, I guess I'm now considered Old School 
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2009 : 20:11:28
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A big part of my playing is using the volume/tone controls and the 5 way selector switch on my strat for different textures on songs.... |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2009 : 00:11:18
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| nothing new to me, but a few will appreciate it |
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PaulH
Gold Member
535 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2009 : 08:59:00
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Nothing new to me either.
I've always used the guitar's knobs & switches to manipulate my tone.
Surely new players don't just plug a guitar in with it's volume on max and tone dead centre, then never adjust them... do they!?
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redundant
Silver Member
Turkey
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Posted - 04/15/2009 : 10:42:04
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulH
Surely new players don't just plug a guitar in with it's volume on max and tone dead centre, then never adjust them... do they!?
some of us old players never adjust them |
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Stengah2010
Silver Member
Australia
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Posted - 04/15/2009 : 12:27:31
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulH
Surely new players don't just plug a guitar in with it's volume on max and tone dead centre, then never adjust them... do they!?
100% of the time my volume and tone are maxed all the time.
In my experience as a pure metal player turning down the volume results in low gain mud and turning down the tone results in high cut mud, neither of which are usable for me. When I wire my guitars I never wire the tone pot(s) in circuit and if possible wire one of the pickup selector positions as a killswitch to avoid having to use the volume control entirely.
Of course thats just my style, I have a mate who gets all sorts of cool sounds tweaking his controls mid song; there are no rules, do whatever works for you. 
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 04/17/2009 : 19:16:58
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+1 for high-gain you need to dime the volume control.
Otherwise, it's a great technique for shaping your tone. Really, any on-board kind of control gives you that enhanced interaction with the sounds you create. Would you rather be Jaco, constantly walking back to his amp and adjusting it minutely, or have most of what you need for a performance at your fingertips (and under your feet  ). |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2009 : 20:24:13
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2009 : 03:42:01
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Originally posted by DeFrag
Mine goes to 11.
Yeah but Nigel's now goes to Infinity.... |
Edited by - Dr. Bob on 04/18/2009 04:28:14 |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
1185 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2009 : 13:57:26
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the TBX is a great tool. I prefer an active tone control over something like EMGs  .. my blade guitar has its VSC system, which is a 3-way mini toggle: bass+treb boost/passive/mid boost, all three parameters have a trim-pot so you can find the proper balance and boost you need.
It's capable of making this ash-strat body sound much more hollow and big - an acoustic- or jazzbox-type tone without piezo real humbuckers, even. While I'm not as much a fan of noiseless pickups, they do serve well in this application.
This is the range you can dial in with the trim-pots:
http://bladeguitars.com/files/vsc_settings.pdf
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2009 : 14:41:49
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| The TBX tone pot was fitted as standard in my '89 strat... i like it a lot as you can get a bit more of a tele bite to the sound with it...and as Dirk pointed out if you leave it in the middle it acts as a normal tone pot.... |
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How the old guys used their guitar controls
