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Frenetic Amnesic
Bronze Member
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 Posted - 06/03/2009 : 18:37:50
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Instead of creating a separate thread on each pedal I'll post them all in here and update it as needed.
My first question is about the boss digital delay series. I currently own a dd-6. Got it for $60 brand spanking new with the box and manuals off craigslist. I have seen various demos of the dd-7 and love some of the new features I have seen. My question is, is it worth shelling out $140 or whatever it is for the dd-7? Is there really that much difference. The main feature I noticed was the addition of analog mode. I'm a stranger to analog delay. Does it sound like a pretty decent analog? I love the sound of analog delay and could probably find some great uses for it in my music. Just wondering if the delay experts think its a great reproduction of analog delay.
Second off, I have an LS-2. This pedal has saved my life. Now instead of switching my chorus and delay off and on for a clean part, I just tap the pedal. Which brings me to my problem. I notice mine its really finicky. Sometimes I press on the pedal and it will swtich to A and then back to B where I was to begin with, or vise versa. Sometimes I push on it and it doesnt even switch. Is this a common thing with these pedals? I did buy it used but I've never had another pedal act this way before.
Last question is on the boss chorus pedals. I used to be a big fan of DEATH back in the day and I always loved how Chuck Schuldiner sounded like he had chorus on his lead parts. Well when I started getting into pedals I got a ch-1 super chorus. It sounds similar, but I hate the swirl effect on the distortion channel, its not noticable on clean, but the gain side it sounds really nasty. I know chorus is supposed to have the swirly effect but I figured it was more dominant because it was the SUPER chorus. My question is, does the ce-5 do this as well? I cant find any sound clips on youtube with distortion and chorus. Basically I want the chorus sound (of two guitars playing in unison, with slight detune) but without the swirling effect. Is there any chorus pedal that does this?
Sorry for my probably dumb questions. I dont know much about pedals other than what they are supposed to do. Thanks guys. Matt |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 18:49:18
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Originally posted by Frenetic Amnesic
Instead of creating a separate thread on each pedal I'll post them all in here and update it as needed.
My first question is about the boss digital delay series. I currently own a dd-6. Got it for $60 brand spanking new with the box and manuals off craigslist. I have seen various demos of the dd-7 and love some of the new features I have seen. My question is, is it worth shelling out $140 or whatever it is for the dd-7? Is there really that much difference. The main feature I noticed was the addition of analog mode. I'm a stranger to analog delay. Does it sound like a pretty decent analog? I love the sound of analog delay and could probably find some great uses for it in my music. Just wondering if the delay experts think its a great reproduction of analog delay.
If you have $150 to shell out and you want an analogue delay... keep your eye out for a DM-2 (sometimes you can get them for that price).
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Second off, I have an LS-2. This pedal has saved my life. Now instead of switching my chorus and delay off and on for a clean part, I just tap the pedal. Which brings me to my problem. I notice mine its really finicky. Sometimes I press on the pedal and it will swtich to A and then back to B where I was to begin with, or vise versa. Sometimes I push on it and it doesnt even switch. Is this a common thing with these pedals? I did buy it used but I've never had another pedal act this way before.
It will almost certainly be the switch - take a look here:
http://members.shaw.ca/lauriepedals/BossSwitchClean.pdf
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rhcp_1005
Silver Member
United Kingdom
307 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 19:10:24
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The analog mode is good but not an exact reproduction of the DM-2, doesn't sound as warm to my ears. You could probably pick one up on ebay for around $110-$120 most of which are usually in new condition. If you want an analog delay though you'll need the DM-2/DM-3.
Not sure about the chorus pedal queastion, but I would have thought that all chorus pedals give that swirl effect, could be wrong though. |
Edited by - rhcp_1005 on 06/03/2009 19:11:09 |
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Jkeatley
Copper Member
United Kingdom
47 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2009 : 00:02:49
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Originally posted by Frenetic Amnesic
Last question is on the boss chorus pedals. I used to be a big fan of DEATH back in the day and I always loved how Chuck Schuldiner sounded like he had chorus on his lead parts. Well when I started getting into pedals I got a ch-1 super chorus. It sounds similar, but I hate the swirl effect on the distortion channel, its not noticable on clean, but the gain side it sounds really nasty. I know chorus is supposed to have the swirly effect but I figured it was more dominant because it was the SUPER chorus. My question is, does the ce-5 do this as well? I cant find any sound clips on youtube with distortion and chorus. Basically I want the chorus sound (of two guitars playing in unison, with slight detune) but without the swirling effect. Is there any chorus pedal that does this?
hmm, firstly the slight detune idea, i get that kinda sound from electro harmoninx, mainly poly flangers and clone theorys,
and on the subject of sounds nasty with distorion you may be looking at a high quaily rack unit which can deliver subtle and full chorus without subjecting to clipping or to getting overly noticeable when the gain ramps up i'd say look towards TC for that kind of chorus, cause atleast with a proper rack you can turn the input level down and turn the mix down. |
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Mansun
Gold Member
Spain
564 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2009 : 00:11:19
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I don't know about the others, but to me these are very interesting doubts, as I'm also starting to build my own set.
I own a DD6 (it costed me like double of what you say, but I'm happy with it anyway, still cheaper than new and MNIB. DD7 has longer hold mode (up to 40 seconds where DD6 only has like 5 seconds), but I don't use that feature. The analog mode... I don't know, I've never seen a DM2 in good condition in ebay for 120 $, but I haven't been looking for too long to be honest. Anyway, if you compare DD7 with DM2 or DM3 (if that's not unlawful), you have this:
Delay time: much longer in DD7... Much, much, much longer (more than needed, anyway).
Tap tempo: DD7 wins again. That's a very useful feature.
Analog mode: DM2/3 are true analog pedals. I haven't tried the DD7, but in my DD6 I get an effect that sounds a bit fake to me. |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2009 : 02:17:05
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| I have tried the dd7 and did not like it the analog mode, well lets just say its digital nothing sounds like an analog pedal |
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PaulH
Gold Member
535 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2009 : 18:31:23
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If you want a Boss Delay, get the DD20.
I doubt you'll need anything else. |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2009 : 18:37:41
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Originally posted by PaulH
If you want a Boss Delay, get the DD20.
I doubt you'll need anything else.
I have a DD-20 and I agree with PaulH it is a fantastic delay. 10-out-of-10 to Boss for that pedal. But... I also have a long-chip DD-3 which I just can't seem to take off my board - there is something about the long-chip pedals that just floats my boat for slap-back. And nothing (not even the DD-20) comes close to the analoggggy goodness of my DM-2.
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harmoniced
Copper Member
Australia
27 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2009 : 11:23:57
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Originally posted by Frenetic Amnesic
Last question is on the boss chorus pedals. I used to be a big fan of DEATH back in the day and I always loved how Chuck Schuldiner sounded like he had chorus on his lead parts. Well when I started getting into pedals I got a ch-1 super chorus. It sounds similar, but I hate the swirl effect on the distortion channel, its not noticable on clean, but the gain side it sounds really nasty. I know chorus is supposed to have the swirly effect but I figured it was more dominant because it was the SUPER chorus. My question is, does the ce-5 do this as well? I cant find any sound clips on youtube with distortion and chorus. Basically I want the chorus sound (of two guitars playing in unison, with slight detune) but without the swirling effect. Is there any chorus pedal that does this?
I bet you that swirl and nasty sound is because you have the chorus before your distortion rather than after it. It sounds like you're using the distortion from the amp, try placing the chorus in the effects loop with a low rate and see if it makes a difference.
Here's some extra info on effects loops and related topics..
http://www.stinkfoot.se/andreas/diy/articles/loop.htm |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2009 : 23:45:42
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Second off, I have an LS-2. This pedal has saved my life. Now instead of switching my chorus and delay off and on for a clean part, I just tap the pedal. Which brings me to my problem. I notice mine its really finicky. Sometimes I press on the pedal and it will swtich to A and then back to B where I was to begin with, or vise versa. Sometimes I push on it and it doesnt even switch. Is this a common thing with these pedals? I did buy it used but I've never had another pedal act this way before.
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Originally posted by Laurie
It will almost certainly be the switch - take a look here:
http://members.shaw.ca/lauriepedals/BossSwitchClean.pdf
Great walk-through, very useful. My LS-2 also started playing up after 5 years, and a quick spray of contact cleaner solved it immediately. Just one question - Why is using WD-40 a bad idea? I've read this before, but can't remember the explanation why.
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2009 : 00:08:13
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Originally posted by Leeroyfunk
Why is using WD-40 a bad idea? I've read this before, but can't remember the explanation why.
On the WD-40 web site it says "Cleans gunk from electrical contacts". That is one of "2000+ uses". It leaves an oily residue when used on fine electronic equipment.
Contact cleaner is specifically engineered for a single purpose - not loosening rusty bolts etc.
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