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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 01/26/2009 :  14:42:47  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This is my "P under S" PH-1R.

The factory has used an input jack for the output jack. It took me a couple of minutes to figure out why the jack wouldn't sit properly...

It is completely factory standard - never been resoldered (at either end). Notice the lead colour is green too (instead of the standard white). I guess they ran out of output jacks that day


Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 01/26/2009 :  14:49:08  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Very observant Laurie...
Nice find.

Should we now add pedals with substituted parts, to the hard to find collection?

Regards Dr. Bob
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 01/26/2009 :  15:07:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Very observant Laurie...
Nice find.

Should we now add pedals with substituted parts, to the hard to find collection?

Regards Dr. Bob


Shit, this could be very expensive
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 01/26/2009 :  16:02:07  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This is the second one I've found recently:
http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6049

And a 3rd one was a 470R resistor in place of the 100R resistor as the "ACA" resistor (part of the resistor/diode combo in an ACA pedal). This was in a MIT CE-2 which wouldn't switch on a PSA adapter - not enough voltage to the flip-flop.

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nathanscribe
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/26/2009 :  16:53:05  Show Profile  Visit nathanscribe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Does that mean the output is no longer a switch for the power? IIRC, doesn't the ground switch terminal function as the power switch on a normal unit, but the input type jack lacks the switch terminal? (hope that makes sense...)
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Dirk
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Netherlands
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Posted - 01/26/2009 :  17:03:12  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

This is my "P under S" PH-1R.

The factory has used an input jack for the output jack. It took me a couple of minutes to figure out why the jack wouldn't sit properly...

It is completely factory standard - never been resoldered (at either end). Notice the lead colour is green too (instead of the standard white). I guess they ran out of output jacks that day



Hey, mine's completely the same, it also has the switching stereo jack for output and the green wire.
How old is yours Laurie? Mine's from oct '81.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 01/26/2009 :  18:35:18  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dirk
Hey, mine's completely the same, it also has the switching stereo jack for output and the green wire.
How old is yours Laurie? Mine's from oct '81.


I'll check the serial when I get home tonight. Be interesting if they are very close. Interesting too if they aren't!
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 01/26/2009 :  18:36:40  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nathanscribe

Does that mean the output is no longer a switch for the power? IIRC, doesn't the ground switch terminal function as the power switch on a normal unit, but the input type jack lacks the switch terminal? (hope that makes sense...)


Nah... works just fine. Switching is on the input jack, which is standard.
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 01/27/2009 :  00:06:00  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
gonna have to get boss on top of there quality control
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 01/27/2009 :  00:40:17  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dirk
Hey, mine's completely the same, it also has the switching stereo jack for output and the green wire.
How old is yours Laurie? Mine's from oct '81.


Serial is 083600. What's yours?
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Dirk
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Netherlands
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Posted - 01/27/2009 :  16:57:31  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie
Serial is 083600. What's yours?



116400.

This learns us that likely all PH-1r's and maybe some other pedals between July and October 1981 have this phenomenon.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 01/27/2009 :  17:10:55  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dirk
This learns us that likely all PH-1r's ..... have this phenomenon.


I know of at least 3 others that don't have it, so probably not...
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