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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  10:13:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hi folks, I went to a heavy music festival on the weekend (Soundwave) where I saw the band Meshuggah play. They were awesome. They were intense, increadibly technical and extremely heavy.

They use Ibanez 8-string guitars which I believe they originally had custom built because 7-string guitars just aren't low enough for them!
Personally, I've never even tried a 7-string guitar, but has anyone here used an 8? If so, what did you think?

Slightly OT: Faith No More were heading the bill. The last time I saw them play was 17 years ago in 1993. They are getting pretty old, but they still know how to rock out.

Håkon
Copper Member

Norway
12 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2010 :  11:36:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have tried one. it is a huge guitar but not hard to play. but i'm used to playing a 7-string guitar and a 6-string bass. the extra strings make it great for experimental music and it is not that hard to get used to the extra strings. i'm going to buy one as soon as i got money for it.
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2010 :  12:52:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They sure look cool! I bought a 7 string when they were in, and it wasn't to bad to get used to and Ibanez certainly makes comfy necks. I'll have to try it!
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silvertone6120
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USA
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  15:03:06  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have a hard enough time working with six strings...I'll probably never go beyond that.
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  16:08:14  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i ran into a lefty 7 string once, i tried it out it felt weird and the neck was way fatter
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JCDenton6
Bronze Member

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2010 :  11:32:13  Show Profile  Visit JCDenton6's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've played on a friend 8 string w/emg's built in, took a few minutes to adjust to the neck, but it great for those super low heavy riffs

For the depth in tuning (It's in drop G) it had a clean tone too, not muddy like some 7 of 8 stringers that I've sampled
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2010 :  02:14:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've played a handful of the RG2228s, they're fun, but you need an amp with lots of headroom to get a really good tone from that string. They also sound better with a Lundgren M8 pickup...

I'm also going to get my hands on an RGA8 (the new affordable one) and give it a whirl - too bad they're still weeks away in Canada.

It's too bad they're all being made at 27" scale.. the Meshuggah guitars they're modeled after were 30" I believe.
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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
756 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2010 :  09:41:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@ verivorax:

Would you use a bass amp with these 8s? I quite often use my bass amp to get clean headroom for guitar (my guitar amp is a Tiny Terror - not a lot of clean on it)... I also heavily employ an EHX POG2 which spits out a lot of low end from a 6.

Do Meshuggah actually use the RG2228 or do they have some special 30" prototypes? The guitars I saw them using looked like RG2228s... but I was a long way back in the crowd...

I may have to look into the RGA8, from the reviews I've read, it's almost as good as the RG2228, just without the price tag.
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verivorax
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Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2010 :  03:40:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey natthu:

Meshuggah currently use Axe-FX amps, but for a long time were using Vetta II heads. The Vettas are 2x150w solid-state, so they can handle the output. On lower-wattage amps (a la Tiny Terror), it'd be a muddy mess.

Their actual 8-strings are LACS (Los Angeles Custom Shop) 30" neck-thru RG 8-strings.. Ibanez also recently made them some 8-string neck-thru Iceman guitars, but I've been told they prefer the RGs. Before the Ibanez, they used some "Nevborn" or somesuch Swedish luthier-built guitars. The RG2228 is a 27" bolt-on copy (kind of) of their original RGs, and the new RGA8 shares the fine-tune-but-hardtail bridge design, which is a nice feature - also very comfy under the hand. I have a feeling the RGA8 will have a little less refined neck, as the RG2228 was a "J-craft" instrument.

The guitars are tuned so low, Meshuggah's bassist tunes his 4-string Warwick Dolphin UP to F#.. except he goes through a bass amp.

I've been lucky enough to play an older 6-string Meshuggah-owned LACS RG.. (a friend of mine is good friends with the band)
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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
756 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2010 :  09:30:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by verivorax
I've been lucky enough to play an older 6-string Meshuggah-owned LACS RG.. (a friend of mine is good friends with the band)



Sweet!

.. and cheers for all the other info. So what is a good price for an RG2228? I've seen one here in Aus for AUD 2000. Which, when you consider the usual mark up for our market, seems ok.
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JCDenton6
Bronze Member

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2010 :  19:06:09  Show Profile  Visit JCDenton6's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Another reason why I decided to hang onto my Marshall Mode Four head, it's 350 watts! LOTS of headroom for extreme de-tuning, that's what I ran my friends Ibanez through.

Got some links for you:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBARG2228

$1795 USD from this dealer

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-RGA8-8String-Electric-Guitar?sku=584136

This is what my friend has, he switched out these pickups for EMGS,
saved himself cash. I might go for this.

Edited by - JCDenton6 on 03/04/2010 19:14:39
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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
756 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2010 :  08:32:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I guess the Aus price of AUD 2000 isn't too bad then... and I didn't realise the RGA8 was less that $1000. Sweet.
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hateandwar
Gold Member

Australia
524 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2010 :  11:26:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey ma I went to soundwave as well. The best band I saw and love (and remember) a lot was whitechapel. I think they use 7 string esps though.
I drank a lot of beer that day... I think the first one was around 11.am. Ahh good times
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