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nooneknows
Copper Member
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 Posted - 02/13/2006 : 12:25:15
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This is my very first post over here, so a big Hi! to everyone.
Question: assuming I have an SD-1, a BD-2, a DS-1, a GE-7 (and a Strat driving a Marshall Jcm 800), what kind of pedal order do you suggest to obtain a flexible setup?
I love BD-2 grain and I'd like a basic OD sound, with a boost during certain part of the song or during a solo. But I'm still wondering if the SD-1 is better after the guitar to push the bd2 or after the BD2 to boost it.
And talking about the GE-7, is it better using it as a mid boost in front of a distorsion or right afetr to shape it?
Any suggestion is welcome,
thank you,
M
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Sunburst
Silver Member
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Posted - 02/13/2006 : 13:21:31
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I guess its a trial and error thing, with trying different combinations to find one you like. When it comes to an EQ pedal, I use mine after a distortion or an overdrive pedal in the pedalchain.
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strat714
Silver Member
USA
156 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2006 : 17:21:21
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I'd use the EQ after the distorto boxes for a boost and have 3 different dirty sound. Mixing the DS-1 and SD-1 can sound pretty nasty, but putting the Blues Driver after the SD-1 can really scream. I'd go DS-1, SD-1, BD-2, GE-7 and never use the DS-1 and SD-1 at the same time. Of course ther is no accounting for taste and you might like the exploding bionic mosquito squash sound that the DS-1 and Sd-1 create. Good Luck and HAVE FUN! |
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Leaden
Copper Member
United Kingdom
1 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2006 : 03:31:37
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So, where do i put my DD-3, when using a Dunlop CryBaby?
I also use a noise suppressor and big muff pie
I always have put my wah LAST, should I instead be using my delay last?
Help.
Thanks. |
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midibuddy
Silver Member
Ecuador
285 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2006 : 07:16:57
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If you're using amp distortion along with your pedal distortions, you should put your DD3 in the FX loop of your amp. If your only source of distortion is pedals, then it should go at the end of the chain.
The Dunlop CryBaby should be the first effect in the chain.
The noise supressor should go after the noisy unit, I'm guessing the big Muff... do you really need a noise suppresor? Maybe your settup will work fine without it...
I hope I was of some help.. |
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bosshog
Silver Member
Canada
493 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2006 : 19:20:34
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I was thinking the same thing about order of pedals,
I have a Fender Telecaster 04' and a Fender 122 Deluxe Plus amp...my pedal order is Crybaby->GE-7->DS-2->CE-3->Amp....
Is there any fundamental mistakes here....anyone learned any painful mistakes that I should know about?
Also why is it when I engage my DS-2 it is at a different volume level than the GE-7 and CE-3...what can I do about this...
Thank you in advance,
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nooneknows
Copper Member
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Posted - 03/02/2006 : 15:39:07
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Hi,
it ended up this way:
guitar -> SD1 -> BD2 -> EH SmallClone -> GE7 -> amp
I can get almost every sounds I need for the music I play (vintage rock), it's a good compromise.
thank you for the hints!
Marcello
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bosshog
Silver Member
Canada
493 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 17:17:57
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Hello...I am still in the dark about my previous post.
I am having alot of volume balance problems and the like...If anyone has any suggestions please let me know:
I was thinking the same thing about order of pedals,
I have a Fender Telecaster 04' and a Fender 122 Deluxe Plus amp...my pedal order is Crybaby->GE-7->DS-2->CE-3->Amp....
Is there any fundamental mistakes here....anyone learned any painful mistakes that I should know about?
Also why is it when I engage my DS-2 it is at a different volume level than the GE-7 and CE-3...what can I do about this...
Thank you in advance,
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 22:01:59
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hi albie.. this is how i set my pedals up
1)distortions
2)modulations
3)eq
4)wah
5)time fx
some people swear by wah before distortion. I have tried putting wah first (with 3 different wah pedals) and i find that the distortion makes the wah signal sound subtle and undefined every time. when wah is after distortion, you are wah'ing the distorted signal and not distorting a wah'ed signal and i find this sounds better..
eq can go almost anywhere depending on personal preference. i always put it after modulation and before wah, some people like it after wah, or even last. just play with it in different positions.
try this order out
Tele > DS2 > CE3 > GE7 > Crybaby > Amp OR
Tele > DS2 > CE3 > Crybaby > GE7 > Amp
and about your volume being uneven, try and get your hands on a compression pedal. a CS3 should even everything out nicely volume-wise.
Hope i could help. Good Luck and Rock On
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bosshog
Silver Member
Canada
493 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 23:12:43
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Thanks for your help Stratosphere...I'll use your tricks and hopefully some sweet tone will pour out.
I wondered how to balance everything but now it makes sense...Compressor.
Regards,
Albie
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GuitarStv
Copper Member
Canada
39 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2006 : 13:55:55
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| +1 to wah AFTER distortion . . . nobody ever seems to agree with me, but I like the sound much better |
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Dingus
Silver Member
USA
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jak84
Bronze Member
USA
95 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2006 : 18:24:12
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Actually hadn't read that. Seems to be a great place to start and invaluable info to keep in the back of your mind for future ref.
Very helpful. Thanks Dingus. |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
1172 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2006 : 04:26:19
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Originally posted by Dingus
This question seems to come up a lot so I figured I'd drop in an article most of us have probably read to help the new folks.
http://www.bossus.com/bugonline/how_to.asp?art=order
That little picture in the articles is EXACTLY how I've always done it.
I also like this:
Guitar > cs-3 > Amp Input (that is preamp overdrive) > effects loop to HR-2 PH-2 DC-3 DD-2 and 2nd DD-2 > back to power amp - and Magic comes out the Celestion Black Shadows!
I find it strange that sometimes you see EQ at the END of the effects and I always thought that that would cut a lot of the ambience out of a chorus pedal that often tinkers with high frequencies etc.
Finally, really, Delay should go last, if you are using it as an echo box. You don't really want to "Chorus" the delays ... you want to "delay" the chorus so to speak.
IF you have a number of effects, it could be smarter to use the LS-2 box, together with your amp's effects loop so you do NOT have too many pedals disengaged bugging youroriginal signal. that way you could flip-flop between two effects loops thereby keeping your signal cleaner. This may mean owning 2 version of a favourite pedal (like a delay box) and having it in each loop (This is also nice for some online gear redundancy incase something dies while on stage).
I have found that I go from the Cleanest effect (i.e. compression) to Distortion, to Wah to chorus/flange/phase to delay works best for me. |
Edited by - starr36 on 03/22/2006 04:33:39 |
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