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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member

Sweden
257 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2008 :  14:18:40  Show Profile  Visit Shoegazers Anonymous's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One question again. It�s fun how I trust you all here at BOSSArea! Cred for you!

I have my PH-1, BF-2 & CE-2 between od and delay/reverb. All good so far. But, I dont really know in wich order the three of them will be placed there between. All are modulations I guess, but is there a way that it will work better, worse aso. In other words, for example, will the chorus sound best after phaser and flanger, or between them? Or will the phaser sound better first of these three, or as the last?

And when going on, I have seen people putting their phaser in the beginning of the chain. Whats the win in that? I like it after overdrive but before delay, so im just curious.

MullyFX
Gold Member

Germany
753 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2008 :  14:32:22  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
heya,

well good or bad always depends on taste I guess.

I use my univibe (which is a kind of phaser) before my fuzz boxes

I don't really have a chorus / I use the VB-2 as my pseudo chorus and with the VB-2 it simply doesn't matter where it's placed (though I tend to use it as a first box in the chain).

my BF-1 comes after my OD and fuzzboxes

so all in all... erm.. wait that wasn't the question now was it?

I'd say experiment - it's more fun this way
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kittenface
Bronze Member

USA
90 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2008 :  22:40:48  Show Profile  Visit kittenface's Homepage  Reply with Quote
my chain is odd but sounds great

treble boost>CE-2>DM-2>WAH>amp

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the-destructor
Silver Member

USA
334 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2008 :  00:14:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whatever clicks with your ears is the Golden Rule.

Here's my current clean amp setup:
Bunch O crap in front in a looper, soon to be multiple loops >
AC-2 > DC-3 > CE-3 or DOD fx65 > BF-2(jap) > Digitech Hyper Phase > Digidelay in tape-mode until Daddy gets an analog delay.

You just have to fiddle around with it until you find what you're looking for. Don't get lazy and just lay them down. Move 'em, tweak 'em, move 'em, tweak 'em, grab 12 more beers than you intended on drinking. Then you'll quickly figure out that you don't own nearly enough gear & in your drunken stupor, log onto your E-bay account & buy more or troll Craig's list. Then & ONLY THEN will you find true happiness & satisfaction.

T-D
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
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Posted - 09/27/2008 :  00:19:59  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
boss recomends phaser,chorus,flanger as the way you should set up pedals,as long with other pedal manufactuers.i found this always works but expermintation should be the best
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2008 :  06:30:21  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would agree with zerksies on the order..i don't use a phaser anymore but i have the CE-2 before the BF-2 in between the compressor/overdrive and the delays....the CE-2 and the BF-2 on a chorus type setting sound good to me for real 80's chorus,very thick and warm sounding when used at the same time..i also find that both these pedals give you a bit of a boost when engaged...not really a problem for me as i normally use them on a clean or slightly dirty sound mostly.....
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Willemdaguide
Bronze Member

Netherlands
70 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2008 :  09:22:42  Show Profile  Visit Willemdaguide's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I also put my modulation effects between the dirt boxes and the delay. One exception is my pasher, that I always put before my dirt pedals. I like the way it blends with an overdrive better, less strong.
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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member

Sweden
257 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2008 :  15:37:15  Show Profile  Visit Shoegazers Anonymous's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

boss recomends phaser,chorus,flanger as the way you should set up pedals,as long with other pedal manufactuers.i found this always works but expermintation should be the best



Thanks, it�s in that way now and sounded great. Now I can use chorus and flanger together with a good result. Tryed the phaser before dirt, but I like it where it was before, so now its phaser, chorus and flanger.
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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member

Sweden
257 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2008 :  15:38:19  Show Profile  Visit Shoegazers Anonymous's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by the-destructor

Whatever clicks with your ears is the Golden Rule.

Here's my current clean amp setup:
Bunch O crap in front in a looper, soon to be multiple loops >
AC-2 > DC-3 > CE-3 or DOD fx65 > BF-2(jap) > Digitech Hyper Phase > Digidelay in tape-mode until Daddy gets an analog delay.

You just have to fiddle around with it until you find what you're looking for. Don't get lazy and just lay them down. Move 'em, tweak 'em, move 'em, tweak 'em, grab 12 more beers than you intended on drinking. Then you'll quickly figure out that you don't own nearly enough gear & in your drunken stupor, log onto your E-bay account & buy more or troll Craig's list. Then & ONLY THEN will you find true happiness & satisfaction.

T-D



Now I have, and man, that gived me a headache. Maybe 12 beers will sort fings out. But now its done. Thanks.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2008 :  03:30:53  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Shoegazers Anonymous & Guys

I'm not sure this will help you, but it's a good start.
From the "Boss Guitar Effects Guide Book" Volume 12 - Page 65 (here on the Forum)

http://www.bossarea.com/pocket/1997/Vol12/Boss_GEGB12_Page64-65.jpg

Regards Dr. Bob
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2008 :  05:16:35  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Dr. Bob, that is spectacular. Thanks for slipping it in for us.
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2008 :  05:21:01  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi Shoegazers Anonymous & Guys

I'm not sure this will help you, but it's a good start.
From the "Boss Guitar Effects Guide Book" Volume 12 - Page 65 (here on the Forum)

http://www.bossarea.com/pocket/1997/Vol12/Boss_GEGB12_Page64-65.jpg

Regards Dr. Bob



Where do you think an AC-2/3 would fit in there? Would it be with the modulation?
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2008 :  17:50:04  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Right Foot Boss

quote:

Where do you think an AC-2/3 would fit in there? Would it be with the modulation?



I guess ONE of the answers would be to put in somewhere around the same position as a/the Wah pedal.

The other answer, as most of the guys here will tell you,
is to Experiment...

Regards Dr. Bob
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2008 :  19:39:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Willemdaguide

I also put my modulation effects between the dirt boxes and the delay. One exception is my pasher, that I always put before my dirt pedals. I like the way it blends with an overdrive better, less strong.



I'd have to agree on the phaser before dirt pedals to make it less strong sounding. Here's a link to describe it.
http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/fx-order.htm

Another trick in vol.19 of Boss books is a Flanger zeroed out on all knobs in to a delay set with long delay time
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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member

Sweden
257 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2008 :  20:41:40  Show Profile  Visit Shoegazers Anonymous's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi Shoegazers Anonymous & Guys

I'm not sure this will help you, but it's a good start.
From the "Boss Guitar Effects Guide Book" Volume 12 - Page 65 (here on the Forum)

http://www.bossarea.com/pocket/1997/Vol12/Boss_GEGB12_Page64-65.jpg

Regards Dr. Bob



Thanks again Dr. Bob!

When I bought my BE-5 I noticed that the chorus was after delay "just to make te most out of it" or something I remeber that I wrote. I thought that was a little spectacular. I have always put my chorus before delay since it�s a modulation effect close to flanger. But, Why not, I guess that I have to take another evening out for moving arond stuff at the pedalborard. But it�s always nice when done.
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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member

Sweden
257 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2008 :  15:16:27  Show Profile  Visit Shoegazers Anonymous's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shoegazers Anonymous

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi Shoegazers Anonymous & Guys

I'm not sure this will help you, but it's a good start.
From the "Boss Guitar Effects Guide Book" Volume 12 - Page 65 (here on the Forum)

http://www.bossarea.com/pocket/1997/Vol12/Boss_GEGB12_Page64-65.jpg

Regards Dr. Bob



Thanks again Dr. Bob!

When I bought my BE-5 I noticed that the chorus was after delay "just to make te most out of it" or something I remeber that I wrote. I thought that was a little spectacular. I have always put my chorus before delay since it�s a modulation effect close to flanger. But, Why not, I guess that I have to take another evening out for moving arond stuff at the pedalborard. But it�s always nice when done.



By the way... Have someone tryed this out and find it good working? Chorus after Delay? Wins or loses?
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