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the-destructor
Silver Member

USA
334 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  01:56:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For me, one of my newest acquisitions. I've heard the horror tales of the DOD fx75 flangers. In my supreme state of ignorance, I figured this was ONLY pertinent to latter reworks (ie. rev. B & C) as I've heard those slammed before. How wrong I was, the father figure pedal is best described as "dogshit on a stick", prepare to be skewered.
This pedal will be best suited for unreasonable internal trim pot tweaking (IF THEY ARE PRESENT)& creating internal jumpers with barbed-wire, just to see if you can make it sound worse than it already is. Just a friendly heads up from your demented cohort & another chance for you to chuckle in my general direction.
I cannot speak for the fx70 which is the "true father" here, but the offspring were obviously heavily inbred. Learn from my mistake & yes, you're very welcome if I've saved you. If you've already had the misfortune, I'm thinking about setting up a support group for survivors. Feel free to PM me so we can start the healing process.
T-D

Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  02:21:24  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Very descriptive Boffo!

Arion SFL-1 for me. I mean, it is a cousin to the SCH-1, right? So it must be good? Right? Nope... also sh!t on a stick. Went back to the store 30 minutes after I got it home. Oh... so I guess I don't own it any more
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member

USA
564 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  02:45:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wish mine only was a pedal. My most useless piece is a Digitech Legend II rack effect unit. Oh man, the dollars I spent on that POS.
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  05:26:07  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Edirol UA-20 USB/MIDI interface POS.
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  06:01:58  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag

Edirol UA-20 USB/MIDI interface POS.



+1 on that. Drops bits/sync all the time.
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Racer X
Silver Member

USA
299 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  15:06:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wah Wah pedals. More like shit shit pedals to me. One trick pony that loaded down my signal. Gutted the last one I had back in the mid 80's to make a volume pedal.

Oddly, while cleaning/reorganizing my shop I found those old guts.A fellow noise deviant is going to get a rehoused and modded toy for his feedback loop.

Edited by - Racer X on 10/10/2008 15:07:57
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member

USA
603 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  18:15:58  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
T-D, perhaps the DOD flangers you used had their trim pots tampered with by a previous owner, and that's why they didn't work? IMHO, the DOD FX75 (and FX70) is very subtle compared to the 4-knob flangers like the BF-2, but the FX75 in particular can be quite musical-sounding at some settings. can't really comment on later versions, though.

but back to topic, my most useless piece of gear right now would have to be everything... between work and becoming a parent, I've rarely gotten to play at all in the last 3+ months. what good is a basement full of toys if you never get to use any of it? hopefully, that will change soon....
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  20:33:54  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Behringer ultra tremolo, the effect itself is OK, but the tone and volume sucking sucks like hell

Other than that I'm pretty satisfied with all the pieces of gear I have, although some of 'em merely sit around looking pretty most notably an old Morley PWB.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  21:19:39  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Has to be the Pod XT pro.... and what annoys me the most is the fact if it was more analogue sounding it would really be tops.... it has the routing options i want for a wet/dry/wet setup plus it has a switchable effects loop for other rack gear.....it just it seems to take something away from your sound even with all the amp and cab sims bypassed and just being used as a straight up effects processor...it's pretty decent for recording demos at home if you need to be quiet but i could of got the kidney bean pod for that..bummer.....followed closely by the Digitech gsp 21 i used to have although the reverbs and delays in the unit were not that bad,the reverb was a lot better than the Pods.....
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  22:37:17  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hey Franz, my kid plans to buy the POD X3 Live. What do you think?
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2008 :  01:38:09  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Depends on what your kids are planning on using it for DeFrag....i suppose in hindsight i never gave it a fair 'crack of the whip' in the sense i used it in the front end of guitar amps,although in my defense line 6 say you can do this.....i should of probably tried a set up with a couple of cabs and a power amp before writing it off,i have heard a lot of people get some great sounds out of them and i did use it as a straight up effects processor in the loop of a marshall combo with some good results,but a lot of people have commented to me that my setup..i.e valve amp,boss pedals,strat,sounds a lot more organic..the exact term used was "it sounds less plastic" as most of the players i come across in bands around dublin seem to be using multi effect setups or something like a vetta,one guy was laughing at my old beat up marshall and no name cab,by the end of the gig he wanted to buy the head off me......... the X3 live looks very cool and to be honest i think it could be very useful with the extra routing options it gives,even more then my pod but i've sort of given up on anything that simulates a proper guitar amp,really all i'm trying to get is some sort of stereo setup to run the dynacord leslie unit in stereo either side of the main amp,not to bore you too much going off topic but i think the solution i've come up with is a rip off of larry carlton/eric johnson hybrid mixed with my regular one... run the guitar/pedals/amp as normal..mike the amp into a small mixer going to a couple of small powered P.A. cabs and add the dynacord in the aux sends/returns with a bit of reverb..also will double as an acoustic amp....i will probably keep the pod in the rack as a 'backup' in case of the amp going down during a gig,i will leave on a fender twin or marshall setting depending on what amp i'm using at the time....confused.....? well so am i ...........i'm thinking about tone so much these days my head hurts....
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2008 :  02:27:18  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Tks mate for taking your time.
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2008 :  10:20:05  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Franzoni, why not put the Dynacord in your effects loop and use a power amp and a 2nd cabinet for powering the other output of the Dynacord?

Or....plug the send signal from your amp into the Dynacord, send the Dyna's outputs into a stereo poweramp with 2 speakers and use your regular amp and speaker in the middle as the dry amp.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2008 :  10:42:22  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dirk

Hi Franzoni, why not put the Dynacord in your effects loop and use a power amp and a 2nd cabinet for powering the other output of the Dynacord?

Or....plug the send signal from your amp into the Dynacord, send the Dyna's outputs into a stereo poweramp with 2 speakers and use your regular amp and speaker in the middle as the dry amp.



Ah... dirk my amps are so old that they don't have effects loops and i don't really want to tamper with them by adding one...i had planned on doing something like you suggested with the Pod..i.e.....Dynacord in the pods stereo effects loop,and the left and right outs into a stereo power amp and two small 1x12 cabs with the pods dry 'unprocessed out' into my amp...i've never run the dry output of the pod into my amp because..why would you without the poweramp and cabs with the effects on either side....might be a better,cheaper and simpler way to go,and possibly with the main amp running 'dry' and a bit louder might take the plastic edge off the sound of the pod ...worth a try...cheers bro'...

P.S..the dynacord needs to be kept out of the main signal when not in use in my opinion as it can make the sound a bit too midrangy,this is why the aux returns in a desk where it could be blended in and sent to different speakers or a switchable effects loop would be best IMHO....


P.P.S..i should probably point out the effect i'm trying to achieve is similar to gilmour,he uses two rotating speakers called doppalas left on all the time slightly lower in the mix than his main amp to fatten and warm up his sound....this has gone way off topic sorry guys..............


Edited by - FRANZONI on 10/11/2008 10:53:45
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2008 :  12:53:02  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No, it's quite interesting (yes it is OT ) but I just got the Peter Frampton live in Detroit DVD and he uses a leslie cabinet which is pretty much on all the time blended in with his regular guitar sound, and that sound really great, it really fills out his sounds.
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PaulH
Gold Member

535 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2008 :  23:42:25  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag

Hey Franz, my kid plans to buy the POD X3 Live. What do you think?




I go ampless all the time, and have done for a long time.

I had a phase of using the Boss GP20, then a SansAmp, now a POD.
Don't underestimate the POD... I've found it to be very studio friendly.

I use a POD XT bean with the FBV Shortboard for everything.
It goes straight to the PA.
If I need to monitor the POD's sound I use a keyboard amp.


I sometimes put a Boss HF2 and DD20 after the POD when recording.
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