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PaulH
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535 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  00:45:45  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

...Paul H runs a similar setup but uses a Tech 21 sansamp as his 'amp'.....




Indeed I do.
This is all I use...

No amps at all.
What you see goes straight to the PA/mixer/recorder, or keyboard amp.

I've never used eq on my pedal board (other than the SansAmp).
When recording, then any eq and reverb is added to suit the mix.

Edited by - PaulH on 02/06/2010 09:08:56
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aaronharmon
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USA
271 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  02:12:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

quote:
Originally posted by aaronharmon

quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

Sorry if i'm taking this OT a bit but from reading the OP he seems to be running his pedal chain into a DI box then to a PA etc..without any sort of amp simulator,i don't think a EQ will do this job to brighten up his tone the way he wants...Paul H runs a similar setup but uses a Tech 21 sansamp as his 'amp'....i think using a something like this or maybe trying one of the boss fender amp pedals at the end might be a better move.....just my 2 cents..



He is running an Amp Sim. He is using the FRV-1 which simulates the 63 Fender Reverb.



AFAIK the '63 reverb wasn't an amp but a large amp shaped reverb unit with no EQ and thats what the FRV-1 is based on so basically it's only a reverb pedal......are you getting it mixed up with the Boss FDR-1 pedal thats based on a '65 Fender deluxe reverb amp..? the boss version mimics the fender with bass and treble controls...i wasn't sure but Mully says that the boss pedals don't have speaker simulation....i know behringer have a cheap DI box that has a 4 X 12 cab simulation that was designed by the famous german amp designer Jurgen Rath...if i was going to go direct and didn't have a lot of readys to splash i would get that and maybe the boss FDR or the FBM -1 and run them at the end of the pedal chain like a real amp... personally i agree with Dirk..you can't beat a real amp and the interaction with a good speaker with a decent mic on it to the PA....but that isn't the question that was asked by the OP....i still don't think a EQ will sort out his tone problem if he's going direct...and i'm assuming he is with the DI box at the end of his pedalboard....



Your right, my bad.
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nosi0
Gold Member

Netherlands
511 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  20:16:02  Show Profile  Visit nosi0's Homepage  Click to see nosi0's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I love having an EQ it doubles all the tones you can get out of your pedal board. I have the MXR 108, 10 band EQ and it's great! Only thing to consider is that it needs 18V but that is easily achieved and is sold with an adapter anyway. I'm currently making myself a parametric EQ but that will take a while but i will report on how the project went when it's completed.





Edited by - nosi0 on 02/09/2010 20:16:23
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jackderringer
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USA
153 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  21:29:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nosi0 that mxr eq is pretty!

how do you like using parametric vs graphic? my best friend who's a sound engineer swears by them, but i just can't get the hang of them, i feel dependent on the visual from a graphic. my bass amp is semi-parametric and i always end up frustrated with it.
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  21:30:18  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We mostly do our own sound but i know a mate of mine who used to play in a well known country band had a graphic EQ on his pedalboard and the bands soundman used to hate it anytime he switched the EQ as it messed with his mix...
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jackderringer
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USA
153 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  22:06:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
haha that's one way to annoy a sound guy... my friend likes to put negative compression on guys who tend to perpetually fidget with the volume knob on their amps so if they turn it past the threshold, their volume goes down. hilarious to watch the eyebrows furrow.
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nosi0
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Netherlands
511 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  22:36:19  Show Profile  Visit nosi0's Homepage  Click to see nosi0's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well the parametric i'm making is no where near finished yet haha. The reason i want a parametric is because of the tone controls on the MT-2 i really like the parametric mid control on it it really gives you more control over the tone.

Technically the parametic EQ is better because you can actually dial in the frequencies you want to boost or cut. with the graphic EQ you can only boost or cut the preset frequencies (and frequencies near the preset frequencies) but there are a lot of frequencies inbetween which aren't being full utilized.

when the Parametric EQ is finished i will tell you guys!

Nosi
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  23:31:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you can get your hands on two MT2 Mids pot, you can make a PQ4
You can even use High/Low pot for Presence/Low too
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jsoi_narciso
Silver Member

Philippines
200 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2010 :  03:49:13  Show Profile  Send jsoi_narciso a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
try a pre amp instead of an EQ, i use a Behringer GDI21 on hotel gigs, most hotels dont have guitar amps. but if you really want an EQ, you cant go wrong with GE-7.
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DarrinPA
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USA
221 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2010 :  20:08:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Going direct is killing your tone. It's not really about an EQ, because you need something to simulate an amp's change in levels if you won't use an amp. Leave the DI to the bass player.
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2010 :  20:22:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That MXR 10 band is pretty deep! It actually sounds very good direct to the house board. I've used mine as s backup just in case something old desides to give up the ghost!
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