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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 06/09/2008 :  03:12:41  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This Distortion+ Dunlop reissue looks minty, but it isn't. The pots are CHEAPO - with plastic shafts, and the set screw just chews through the pot shaft. The set-screw appeared to be way too tight from the factory (of course there is no way to tell for sure). Anyway, plastic shafts are just stupid for a pedal. Shame on you Dunlop!!

Had to replace one - 50k log "level" (I used a 9mm form factor replacement with leg extensions). Should have replaced the other one (it wasn't broken yet) but it's a 470k reverse log - very hard to find a substitute.

Hope this doesn't happen to any Dunlop MXR reissue pedals in your collection...







Edited by - Laurie on 06/09/2008 03:23:59

Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 06/09/2008 :  06:09:59  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Laurie

Was there a chance that it could be super glued back together?
Pls Check your PM.

Perhaps Jim Dunlop, who now own MXR, have a replacement for the 470K rev. Log pots.

Regards Dr. Bob

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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/09/2008 :  12:44:40  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Superglue and gaffa tape ....... a musicians most valuable...'get out of jail card' along with a slot and phillips screwdrivers and some spare fuses............
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 06/09/2008 :  13:19:49  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

Superglue and gaffa tape ....... a musicians most valuable...'get out of jail card'
along with a slot and phillips screwdrivers and some spare fuses............



Hi FRANZONI
You forgot to mention Icy-Pole Sticks & fencing wire.

Regards Dr. Bob
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timbo
Silver Member

Australia
252 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2008 :  16:22:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
long live CTS pots!

bummer about cheaper parts on reissues, really doesn't do a pedal like the D+ justice...
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jack
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USA
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Posted - 06/09/2008 :  16:47:52  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
CTS pots are good, but may require redrilling since the shafts are 5/16" instead of many of the pots in pedals 1/4 shaft. I would just find out what the value of the pot is, then get an Alpha or some brand of metal shafted pot, and put it in there instead. I would just use any resistor or lead clippings you may have on the pot to make those extended lugs (legs) the original pot has. I have done this on a few of my pedal builds to save on wiring time, but think its what you should do as ordering something from MXR might be another plastic shafted pot, and then trying to repair the plastic shaft will just be an ongoing battle.

I noticed you say its a hard pot to find, but couldn't you just reverse the leads on a regular pot to get the reverse effect? Also I built a clone of one of these recently, and it just used regular valued pots, so are you sure that weird pot is even necessary?

Edited by - jack on 06/09/2008 16:51:21
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 06/09/2008 :  18:11:39  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jack
ordering something from MXR might be another plastic shafted pot, and then trying to repair the plastic shaft will just be an ongoing battle.

I noticed you say its a hard pot to find, but couldn't you just reverse the leads on a regular pot to get the reverse effect? Also I built a clone of one of these recently, and it just used regular valued pots, so are you sure that weird pot is even necessary?



Yeah... I wont order from MXR because I'll just get the same thing. I'm putting together an order for Small Bear for some other stuff and they have a substitute 500k reverse log - legs will need to be extended, and the hole in the box is too big but it will be fine with a bit of fiddling.

Not sure about swapping the legs... it would work, but it would give maximum distortion at fully counterclockwise (what would normally be "off")... Make it an interesting pedal I guess
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kidcheesyriffs
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USA
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Posted - 06/09/2008 :  19:18:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't stand plastic pot shafts. (I'm also not a fan of the direct to board soldering of jacks either.) I tend to avoid Dunlop MXR products because one can generally buy a pre-dunlop distortion + or dyna comp for around the same price as a newer one, and I find the construction quality to be much higher.

If you want a Proco Rat that is "built like a tank" you have to get one from the 70's that has a "tone" control, rather than a filter control, or you have to get a more recent one (I have one from about 2003 prior to the move the Chinese production that has metal shafts). I was disappointed to buy and '80's small box rat and find the construction specs to be somewhat inferior to my '03. Seems like most vintage Electro Harmonix, power / master series Ibanez pedals.... even the Crowther Hotcake that I bought recently have plastic pot shafts.

This is part of the reason why I love Boss pedals. With the exception of soldering the PSA to the board, they do it the way I like it. ... so you can get a Boss DS-1 or SD-1 for $25-$30 used, and have a pedal that is better built than pedals that cost 5 times as much. ... and they sound pretty cool too.

Edited by - kidcheesyriffs on 06/09/2008 19:19:03
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/10/2008 :  03:28:12  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kidcheesyriffs

I can't stand plastic pot shafts. (I'm also not a fan of the direct to board soldering of jacks either.) I tend to avoid Dunlop MXR products because one can generally buy a pre-dunlop distortion + or dyna comp for around the same price as a newer one, and I find the construction quality to be much higher.

If you want a Proco Rat that is "built like a tank" you have to get one from the 70's that has a "tone" control, rather than a filter control, or you have to get a more recent one (I have one from about 2003 prior to the move the Chinese production that has metal shafts). I was disappointed to buy and '80's small box rat and find the construction specs to be somewhat inferior to my '03. Seems like most vintage Electro Harmonix, power / master series Ibanez pedals.... even the Crowther Hotcake that I bought recently have plastic pot shafts.

This is part of the reason why I love Boss pedals. With the exception of soldering the PSA to the board, they do it the way I like it. ... so you can get a Boss DS-1 or SD-1 for $25-$30 used, and have a pedal that is better built than pedals that cost 5 times as much. ... and they sound pretty cool too.



Amen brother.............stuff that even i can repair is tops in my book.....and i'm lucky i don't set the house on fire with the soldering iron..... BTW so far in all my experience of boss ownership the worst thing i've had to fix is some switch cleaner on my LS-2 and to be honest i can't think of anything else...... and my stuff is out most weekends gigging and i started using boss stuff in 95 when my rack got stolen,i don't use boss dist/drive or gain pedals anymore but for modulation or delay i still have 7 boss and an old TU12 in my 'board......Q ...how long is the TU12 around as i had mine before i had the pedals....in fact i feel i've had it a lot longer as my mate bought a new one years ago and gave me this one 'cause the input jack was a bit funny.....nothing a drop of solder couldn't fix................

Edited by - FRANZONI on 06/10/2008 03:40:11
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Laurie
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Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2008 :  05:34:01  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It is particularly inappropriate for them to use plastic shaft pots and then put the rubber covers on the knobs so you can adjust them with your foot...

Shame on you Dunlop!!
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