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Jay Marriott
Copper Member

United Kingdom
21 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  12:14:13  Show Profile  Visit Jay Marriott's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Here is my current set up, which was started about a month ago.
Could anybody suggest the best way of setting them up in order.
I have a Jap NF-1 and a DS-1 coming, thanks to e-bay.

RRV-10
Silver Member

Australia
246 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  12:36:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I don't know if you had a pic to load or what, but generally my preference is:

Wah > Compressor > Pitch > Fuzz > Distortion > Overdrive > EQ > Chorus > Phaser > Flanger > Tremolo > Delay > Reverb

The Noise Gate would go after a noisy pedal, but honestly I think you don't need it.
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Jay Marriott
Copper Member

United Kingdom
21 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  12:44:30  Show Profile  Visit Jay Marriott's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Cheers, I'm trying to upload a photo of my set up, as we speak. Ah, this should be it.


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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  14:44:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jay, I suggest that you don�t use the cordless contacts between you pedals, those could real easy hurt your in/out jacks (I have own experiences of this, so trust me!).
Use short cords instead.
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Jay Marriott
Copper Member

United Kingdom
21 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  14:52:20  Show Profile  Visit Jay Marriott's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, is there any you (or anyone) can recomend?
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mattoqua
Silver Member

Canada
438 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  18:58:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Goran

Jay, I suggest that you don�t use the cordless contacts between you pedals, those could real easy hurt your in/out jacks (I have own experiences of this, so trust me!).
Use short cords instead.



Hey Goran,
could you explain that a little more?
I use short chords right now, but was going to switch to cordless. i thought it was better, since shorter, an a lot cleaner. Whats the downside?
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jack
Platinum Member

USA
1418 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  19:15:55  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mattoqua

quote:
Originally posted by Goran

Jay, I suggest that you don�t use the cordless contacts between you pedals, those could real easy hurt your in/out jacks (I have own experiences of this, so trust me!).
Use short cords instead.



Hey Goran,
could you explain that a little more?
I use short chords right now, but was going to switch to cordless. i thought it was better, since shorter, an a lot cleaner. Whats the downside?



Short cords work fine, but those solid, 1-piece connectors put stress on the pedal jacks. I used them shortly, but noticed when I stepped on one pedal, the other pedals would move ever so slightly. The 1-piece connectors treat your pedals like they are on a clothesline, because if you pull down on any spot in a clothesline, the whole line moves down a bit. With patch cords, its like each pedal has its own clothesline, and the movements of one won't affect everything else. If you are not a hard stomper, or have your pedals on a hard surface, the 1-piece connectors may be just fine, but otherwise, you may need to look into patch cords...
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  19:41:59  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
where do you guys get those short connectors and how much are they each? i think they would clean up my rig bigtime. i wouldnt use them love or jamming for fear of damaging the jacks, but at home i just bend over and turn the pedal on by hand so i think it would work out.
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mattoqua
Silver Member

Canada
438 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  20:08:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
People sell them on ebay for $5 each, but theres a store here in toronto that sells them for $2 or cheaper. Active Surplus. Its an electronic store, and not a guitar place, so I guess thats why theyre cheap.

So if I use a BCB-6, it should be fine then?
I recently picked one up, but the cables I use now dont fit in the space, so I need new ones anyway.
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Jay Marriott
Copper Member

United Kingdom
21 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2007 :  21:26:40  Show Profile  Visit Jay Marriott's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've seen them on E-bay, but i got mine from my local music store, and they cost me �3.50 each, which is about $7.00 us.
I brought 7 for �24.50, but then i got them for �15.00 cause i brought a TU-2 at the same time.

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RRV-10
Silver Member

Australia
246 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2007 :  09:35:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok. My first instincts would be:

Wah > TU-2 > PSM-5 Loop > CS-3 > PS-5 > FZ-5 > SD-1 > CE-3 > TR-2 > DD-3 > DSD-2


but it's best to mess around a bit as there are no real rules. The PS-5 might track better before the CS-3, or before the PSM-5 loop for instance. The wah could possibly go later if a buffer before it doesn't screw up the sound. The AC-2 I have no idea. My gut would be after the PS-5. Id also try everything from the CE-3 onwards in the amps effect loop if it has one.

Edited by - RRV-10 on 06/17/2007 09:39:37
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Jay Marriott
Copper Member

United Kingdom
21 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2007 :  21:18:25  Show Profile  Visit Jay Marriott's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok,
I've tried out the set up and it seems ok upto now, Guitar, Tuner, Tremolo, Super shifter, Compressor, DD6 Delay, Overdrive and Fuzz, Amp.
I have the super shifter on the 12 string setting, then the compressor to give it a Byrds sound, and the DD6 set up for the reverse delay, for the 60's trippy vibe.
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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member

Sweden
257 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2007 :  15:51:27  Show Profile  Visit Shoegazers Anonymous's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mattoqua

quote:
Originally posted by Goran

Jay, I suggest that you don�t use the cordless contacts between you pedals, those could real easy hurt your in/out jacks (I have own experiences of this, so trust me!).
Use short cords instead.



Hey Goran,
could you explain that a little more?
I use short chords right now, but was going to switch to cordless. i thought it was better, since shorter, an a lot cleaner. Whats the downside?



Hi!
I use this cordless ones and as you say, it does not fit 100%, but a tip is to bend one of the male a little, put the pedals together and then roll the contact while connected until it fits good and both of the pedals are flat on surface. I use it in my pedalboard where they are fixed, and it have worked well for 15 years. So try to bend the contacts a little som that they are not straight. Thats my tip. Im not a technical (dont know how to spell that word...) so I have always thinking about the downside in sound with this solution, is there any? I my world it must be the best thing to do to keep the signalchain short withous signal-loss in cabels and stuff. I use this contacts and when I can�t - theres George L�s - and I have never felt any tonesuck or something like that. But maybe thats not because of the contacts. I don�t know. For me they works just fine and make great place in the pedal-board for at least two or three more pedals thanks to this contacts.
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midibuddy
Silver Member

Ecuador
285 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2007 :  15:59:16  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Here'a another vote against those cordless-plugs. They put so much stress in the jacks of your pedals, that will break them inside... all the weight of the stomp is transmited via those plugs, to the pedal jacks... which is very bad, as you may imagine... a friend had like 4 of the 6 pedals on his pedalboard damaged because of this... I can recommend you the planet waves patch cables... they're the best out there, they're $ 35 each set of 2 cables, but they're definitely worth the expense... they give back all the high end (trebble) loss from having 8 pedals in-line... plus they cut the hum and hiss you may get from your current rig... they're excellent!
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2007 :  22:56:25  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have to use one for my LS-2 though. Otherwise the angled plug beneath it raises the pedal off the pedalboard a quarter inch & that CAN'T be good for stepping on.
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