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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  17:42:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi i'm new around here and im a big fan of boss pedals

its been my second time to use boss pedals after using multi effects for a very very long time..i have decided to go back to pedals so i can tweak it better and make it sound better rather than having a hard time editing it in a multi effects processor in a live set.

I would like to ask to you guys what order of pedals do you think is the best to have a versatile sound without changing the position of pedals?I'm into prog rock/metal sound dream theater, tool,porcupine tree etc and the same time into a lot of instrumental guys like paul gilbert, guthrie govan, scott henderson etc. and sometimes alternative rock.Pls help i appreciate it a lot! :)

here's my pedals

DS-1,SD-1,MT-2,CE-5,PH-3,DD-3,GE-7,CS-3 going through a small 15watt marshall MG series practice amp and a washburn wg with ibanez V1 V2 pickups.

thanks!good day to all :)

PaulH
Gold Member

535 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  18:32:59  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The "classic" order into a clean amp is...
Wah > Compression > Distortion > Modulation > Delay > Reverb

If using an effects loop, put the modulation & delay in it.



Is the set up for bedroom use, home/studio recording, or live performance?
You may want a better(?) amp, or a decent amp simulator.

Edited by - PaulH on 03/20/2009 18:36:01
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  20:03:58  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
See my post on this thread:

http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4126
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  22:56:07  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i would run you set up like this

cs-3
sd-1
ds-1
mt-2
ge-7
ph-3
dd-3

most debate over the spot for the eq but i find it better after a distortion
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 03/21/2009 :  01:49:01  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi mindtwist07

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Regards Dr. Bob
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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  03:39:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PaulH

The "classic" order into a clean amp is...
Wah > Compression > Distortion > Modulation > Delay > Reverb

If using an effects loop, put the modulation & delay in it.



Is the set up for bedroom use, home/studio recording, or live performance?
You may want a better(?) amp, or a decent amp simulator.



for practice-bedroom..For live performances the production from a small club provides a 100 watt AVT marshall amp or a peavey studio 112..as you can see theres a difference of amps so there's a change problem regarding the tone..

thanks man!I think I need to get an amp simulator.Do u have a suggestion?Im thinking of a sansamp GT2 or a behringer GD21 what do u think?
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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  03:41:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi mindtwist07

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Regards Dr. Bob



thanks Bob! happy to be here
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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  03:48:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

i would run you set up like this

cs-3
sd-1
ds-1
mt-2
ge-7
ph-3
dd-3

most debate over the spot for the eq but i find it better after a distortion



thanks! im gonna try this man thanks for the knowledge this practically make sense This goes in front of the amp right?cuz my amp doesnt have any fx loop and where's the CE-5?

Edited by - mindtwist07 on 03/21/2009 04:31:05
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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  03:58:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag

See my post on this thread:

http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4126



thanks man that was very informative.Would you agree if I put the ds-1 on the last or second to the last in a chain then a eq? since it is not true bybass and its sucks tone? ive read something on a thread and someone said that and SD 1 and DS 1 combo is bad news written all over.Is it better is i use a SD 1 EQ for solos and DS-1 eq for rhythm instead?

Edited by - mindtwist07 on 03/21/2009 04:01:05
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Right Foot Boss
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USA
881 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  07:25:23  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I would place them as follows:

CS-3
MT-2
DS-1
SD-1
GE-7
PH-3
DD-3
CE-5

But what do I know?
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  13:39:12  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

i would run you set up like this

cs-3
sd-1
ds-1
mt-2
ge-7
ce-5
ph-3
dd-3

most debate over the spot for the eq but i find it better after a distortion

sorry i would run it like this

cs-3
sd-1
ds-1
mt-2
ge-7
ce-5
ph-3
dd-3

put this in front of the amp
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  14:20:21  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forum from ireland...........the CE-5 at the end would be good if you have two amps otherwise the advice you have got is pretty good.....



Off topic question for the mods...?

This question seems to arise a good bit over the last few months... should we put it in or start a topic in the FAQ's......?............
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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  17:20:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Right Foot Boss

I would place them as follows:

CS-3
MT-2
DS-1
SD-1
GE-7
PH-3
DD-3
CE-5

But what do I know?



thanks man id like to try this one out.you have the same idea as zerksies though the only difference you have is the position of the CE5 and MT2?does that have any effect on the chain?

To all who replied. Thanks again you all have given me great ideas and advices. I very much appreciated all your help and it feels good man.. thank u again and keep it up!

Edited by - mindtwist07 on 03/21/2009 17:23:16
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  17:51:25  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
CE-5 at the end will give you a more of a leslie speaker in slow speed sort of sound when you engage the effect......also as i pointed out it gives you the option to run two amps in stereo...boss stereo chorus pedals are pretty good in stereo IMHO.....
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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  18:17:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

CE-5 at the end will give you a more of a leslie speaker in slow speed sort of sound when you engage the effect......also as i pointed out it gives you the option to run two amps in stereo...boss stereo chorus pedals are pretty good in stereo IMHO.....



i wish i had another amp to try that one.. anyways i saw a topic here which gives a CE5 setting leslie type of chorus sound ala stevie ray vaughn i think im going to try that one too..thanks man nice info on that one..if i can get my hands on a new amp ill try it..good one man..

another noob question.my amp's a real bad one i cant get a real good tone out of it, if i let the ds1 stand alone on a clean channel i cant get a real good chunky rhythm sound it seems to lack distortion even in its dist knob turned to full..do u have any idea on this?is it my pickups or the quality of the sound the amp is producing..man talk about off topic..but thanks in advance.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  20:06:33  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Strange that your not getting any distortion out of the DS-1 on the clean channel....i'm assuming your amp and guitar are ok...? first thing i would check is all leads and patch cords to make sure they are working correctly.......
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