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oobujoobu
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
 Posted - 12/28/2009 : 23:05:40
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I'm thinking of getting a Boss NS-2 Noise Supressor pedal, but before I do, am trying to get some opinions to see if it will do what I want it to do.
At the moment my signal goes in the following order-
Guitar (Epiphone SG or Epiphone Dot, depending on what song I'm playing)
> EH Micro Pog
> Boss Acoustic Sim AC-3
> Boss Dynamic Wah AW-3 (Probably ignore this one as I will most likely trade it in for the noise supressor)
> Boss Overdrive OD-2
> Boss ME-20 Multi Effects
> Digitech Hardwire DL-8 Delay/Looper
> Marshall VS265 Amp
The main thing I am trying to acheive is to cut down some of the noise generated by the AC-3 Acoustic Sim, the OD-2 Overdrive, and the ME-20 Multi Effects.
The ME-20 tends to generate quite a bit of hiss if using the Tremelo setting or the compressor setting, and the AC-3 and OD-2 just always have an element of hiss when switched on.
Does anyone her have experience of the NS-2 pedal to know if its likely to eliminate these sounds? I'd particularly like to be able to use compression more often on the ME-20 but am put off by the amount of noise it generates (I know a compression pedal will always generate some noise, but how the good is the NS-2 at eliminating this noise?)
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2009 : 00:13:42
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| Quick question, What kind of pickups are you using? Single coils or Humbuckers. |
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oobujoobu
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2009 : 00:25:02
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Both guitars feature the original humbuckers that they were built with.
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2009 : 05:09:37
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Originally posted by oobujoobu
I'm thinking of getting a Boss NS-2 Noise Supressor pedal, but before I do, am trying to get some opinions to see if it will do what I want it to do.
At the moment my signal goes in the following order-
Guitar (Epiphone SG or Epiphone Dot, depending on what song I'm playing)
> EH Micro Pog
> Boss Acoustic Sim AC-3
> Boss Dynamic Wah AW-3 (Probably ignore this one as I will most likely trade it in for the noise supressor)
> Boss Overdrive OD-2
> Boss ME-20 Multi Effects
> Digitech Hardwire DL-8 Delay/Looper
> Marshall VS265 Amp
The main thing I am trying to acheive is to cut down some of the noise generated by the AC-3 Acoustic Sim, the OD-2 Overdrive, and the ME-20 Multi Effects.
The ME-20 tends to generate quite a bit of hiss if using the Tremelo setting or the compressor setting, and the AC-3 and OD-2 just always have an element of hiss when switched on.
Thanks for any advice
Welcome to the forum!!
The compressor should go first in the chain (even before the POG), using it last will turn a slight hiss or noise into something totally overwhelming because of the way the effect works.
The tremolo effect works in a different way, its a volume swell type effect that will again amplify any hiss fed into it- this should also go pretty early on in the chain too-
Id move the ME-20 to the front of the queue and keep the rest as you've arranged it I reckon- certainly for the tremolo and compressor to work properly (plus it has a noise gate built in also)
Noise, buzzing and the like are often attributable to other factors, including using the wrong power supply (if it doesn't have the word Boss written on it then it will most likely be noisy) cheap patch/guitar leads, interference from other nearby electrical equipment like laptops/tvs/monitors etc etc
Plus you may also find the guitar is contibuting to the problem-
Check the control plate and pickup cavities on the guitar and make sure the electronics are shielded, and if not get a roll of copper tape for about a fiver and shield everything yourself- it makes pretty much any guitar sound miles better..... |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2009 : 05:18:57
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Hi oobujoobu
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
Regards Dr. Bob  |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2009 : 11:13:03
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Originally posted by zerksies
Here are a examples of a Malmsteen ns-2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDzNsFjEk1E
So, judging from that video it does kind of work like the Dolby noisereduction system. |
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oobujoobu
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2009 : 13:59:27
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Thanks for all the replies.
I will experiment with reordering the chain to see what effect that has.
The main noise I am trying to get rid of is noise whilst I am not playing, as the OS-2 (sorry I typed it as OD-2 in my original message) and the AC-3 generate quite a
bit of background hiss. I do use the noise reduction option on the ME-20 on some settings, but perhaps naively I had put this pedal towards the end of the chain,
hoping it would also act as a noise suppressor for the previous pedals in the chain as well, but this doesn't seem to happen, hence the reason why I am looking at
the NS-2 instead.
I am happy with the patch leads that I use, although I am tempted to change the ones that seperate the indivdual boss compacts to this type - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140352771805&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
I think the powerbank supply is perhaps not the greatest, and I would consider changing it to a diagio powersupply as I have heard very good reviews of that. I have never looked at the shielding within the guitars but that is something I could take a look at (I wouldn't have a clue what to do so will need to trawl the internet for instructions).
I have included below a picture of my pedal board as it is currently set up
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Thanks again for the help so far! |
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Mansun
Gold Member
Spain
564 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2009 : 20:56:07
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Originally posted by chrissydamage
Noise, buzzing and the like are often attributable to other factors, including using the wrong power supply (if it doesn't have the word Boss written on it then it will most likely be noisy) cheap patch/guitar leads, interference from other nearby electrical equipment like laptops/tvs/monitors etc etc
The rest of your post was really good, but I couldn't help myself and say... "OH, COME ON!" 
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2009 : 22:46:12
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Originally posted by Mansun
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Originally posted by chrissydamage
Noise, buzzing and the like are often attributable to other factors, including using the wrong power supply (if it doesn't have the word Boss written on it then it will most likely be noisy) cheap patch/guitar leads, interference from other nearby electrical equipment like laptops/tvs/monitors etc etc
The rest of your post was really good, but I couldn't help myself and say... "OH, COME ON!"
No offence, mate
LOL No none taken, I stand by that statement 100% though-
I've used many different ones over the years by many different manufacturers, not one of them works as well as the PSA adaptor for powering compact pedals. The Diago one may be good, but its a lot of money (never tried one myself but a lot of people here love them!)
I've used power supplies that are even EXACTLY the same rating as the Boss one too and STILL certain pedals don't work or have noise issues- particularly the late MIJ ones can be problematic I find.
Even the best alternative I've found doesn't work on 100% on all pedals without issue.
The p0wer6ank has a reputation for being quite noisy though oobujoobu-
Try your pedals on battery power just as a test and see if its any better......... |
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oobujoobu
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2009 : 01:56:17
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The p0wer6ank has a reputation for being quite noisy though oobujoobu-
Do you mean the power supply shown in my picture that I am currently using, or the diagio power supply?
If you mean the diagio power I'm surprised as everything I've read about that tends to focus on how quiet thay claim it to be! |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2009 : 06:17:57
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No I meant the one you are using- hum city from what I've heard....
I don't think they are isolated, the noise you can hear is probably ground hum and thats why you can hear it when the effects are turned off too......
You are basically earthing appliances that are not designed to be earthed, to put it another way.......
I think the Diago website is really good and theres some reviews of other manufacturers power supplies, explains stuff quite clearly and is openly critical of the designs-
http://www.diago.co.uk/pedal-power/alternatives/
Not used a Diago myself, but I've heard good things and the design looks pretty good compared to others-
Lot of money though......... |
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oobujoobu
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2009 : 13:39:48
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Thanks Chrissydamage, I would suspect that you are absolutely right, as this was a very cheap unit (about �18), and also quite bulky, I could probably fit another pedal on my board if I go for the diagio!
I could then relegate my current power supply to being an emergency backup.
Thanks. |
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Ollie
Gold Member
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2009 : 14:22:30
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| I picked up a mint diago power supply for about fifty quid on eBay and it's brilliant, no issues and it's a nice size too. |
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oobujoobu
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2009 : 14:56:15
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I'm glad to hear that because I've also just bought one on eBay about an hour ago!
I'll see if that makes enough difference for me not to need to get the NS-2. |
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PaulH
Gold Member
535 Posts |
Posted - 12/31/2009 : 12:41:25
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I use the Diago Powerstation with no issues.
However, I had a few noise issues with my DD20 a few months back.
Turned out to be a couple of cables.
The NS2 is good at getting rid of hiss when not playing.
If you have it set too high though, you'll find it cuts your sustain.
It's all swings & roundabouts really. |
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Will an NS-2 Do What I'm Hoping?
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