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moonmarkcus
Silver Member

Nicaragua
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Posted - 02/17/2009 :  16:07:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Gragory.

you can find schematics on request directly (PM)to Dr. Bob, in order to know if D6 is the right zener, I dont have any DD but schematics and diagrams are extremely useful to found and test any part of the circuit inside our pedals, it could be helpful in your case because you are not sure to have circuit complete, and probably you will need to rebuild your PCB tracks with wires or soldering mat.

Im pretty sure you have another thing inside damaged, probably it just the PCB Burned track or maybe flipflop transistors ( if it has)it might be producing a short circuit that is causing a warn battery,I say this because my experience, recently I bought a damaged CS-3 and it had zener ok, but flip flop transistors were burned....

BTW, Do you have signal ( sound) without pressing pedal, I mean, is bypass working?

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Craigory
Copper Member

Canada
3 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2009 :  17:10:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moonmarkcus

Dear Gragory.

you can find schematics on request directly (PM)to Dr. Bob, in order to know if D6 is the right zener, I dont have any DD but schematics and diagrams are extremely useful to found and test any part of the circuit inside our pedals, it could be helpful in your case because you are not sure to have circuit complete, and probably you will need to rebuild your PCB tracks with wires or soldering mat.

Im pretty sure you have another thing inside damaged, probably it just the PCB Burned track or maybe flipflop transistors ( if it has)it might be producing a short circuit that is causing a warn battery,I say this because my experience, recently I bought a damaged CS-3 and it had zener ok, but flip flop transistors were burned....

BTW, Do you have signal ( sound) without pressing pedal, I mean, is bypass working?




Thanks for your response. To answer a few questions:
No the bypass does not work. There is no light that comes on either, no sound is able to be achieved by using the pedal.
I have the official schematics of the DD3 but it looks like the circuit board actually DID change through the various incarnations of the DD3, contrary to what most people say as my pedal is night and day different from the actual schematic. I removed the D6 diode and it still does not work.
Thanks
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2009 :  17:17:08  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Craigory

Hey, I am having the exact same problem as Goran. I plugged in a podxt adapter unknowingly (apparently the wrong polarity) and the pedal started to smoke, and smell like burning electronics but i didn't notice it until about 15 seconds after i plugged it in :(. I removed the D6 zener diode. I have a dd3 third generation (the bottom pedal at the site comparing the different models of the DD3). A few questions:
1) Does anyone know if this was the right diode to remove from this model of the dd3? The pedal still doesn't work with the zener removed. I removed it by melting the solder around it.
2)Do I have to add more solder as it appears it looks like the circuit is incomplete where the zener diode was.
3) Is there anymore damage that could be done to the pedal other than just the zener diode blowing?
4) If i put in a 9V and press the switch the light doesn't turn on and no signal is passed through, but the battery will heat up. Is this an indication of anything?

Thanks for your help.


Hi Craigory!

The hot battery indicates a short circuit somewhere in the pedal. Can you please take some pics of the board (front and back)?

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moonmarkcus
Silver Member

Nicaragua
224 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2009 :  00:17:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some pics will help a lot!!! and for sure, someone here can recognize a similar PCB...

Take good picture on circuit area where did you find melted diode
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Craigory
Copper Member

Canada
3 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2009 :  03:46:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I can't get any pics of the circuit board but hopefully someone recognizes this PCB. Also there wasn't any noticable physical damage, eg no noticable melted parts, though the pedal started to smoke :(.
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moonmarkcus
Silver Member

Nicaragua
224 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2009 :  06:04:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
,but pics are blurred...

Can you take more pictures? It is important to see the other side of the board

Edited by - moonmarkcus on 02/18/2009 06:04:38
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jvangurp
Copper Member

Canada
3 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2009 :  19:32:41  Show Profile  Visit jvangurp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi there folks, I haven't read through this whole thread, it was just the first Google search result I picked. My DD3 got fried when I used a power supplied that a salesman at the Source Electronics gave me, assuring me it would be perfectly matched. My mistake for listening to him! Anyway, I understand that diode D6 needs to be replaced. Here's a photo of the part on the circuit board. I carefully de-soldered it with a 15W iron and removed it and need to find out where to get a new one. I have no clue about testing it. I'll come back here to read the whole thread sometime very soon. If you have any suggestion where to get a new D6 I would love to hear it. Cheers, John (you can see D6 near the center of the image)



Edited by - jvangurp on 05/10/2009 19:36:39
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2009 :  19:42:37  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jvangurp

Hi there folks, I haven't read through this whole thread, it was just the first Google search result I picked. My DD3 got fried when I used a power supplied that a salesman at the Source Electronics gave me, assuring me it would be perfectly matched. My mistake for listening to him! Anyway, I understand that diode D6 needs to be replaced. Here's a photo of the part on the circuit board. I carefully de-soldered it with a 15W iron and removed it and need to find out where to get a new one. I have no clue about testing it. I'll come back here to read the whole thread sometime very soon. If you have any suggestion where to get a new D6 I would love to hear it. Cheers, John (you can see D6 near the center of the image)





Hi jvangurp and welcome!

Our discussions about "D6" are for the "long-chip" version, where a D6 failure is common. The version you have has a different circuit and different part numbers. D6 on your board is not the same as D6 on the long-chip.

Can you post pics of the area around the DC input jack? Front and back of the board. Thanks!
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jvangurp
Copper Member

Canada
3 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2009 :  20:11:36  Show Profile  Visit jvangurp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oops! I already removed d6... Here are the photos including one of what I just noticed as what appears to be a prior soldering repair...







http://picasaweb.google.ca/jvangurp/Dd3?feat=directlink

Edited by - jvangurp on 05/10/2009 22:53:11
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2009 :  15:27:10  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi jvangurp & guys

From your last component side pic. (DC input socket view).
It looks like the protection diode is marked D9

I don't have my schematics here with me, at the moment.

I might have to ask Dr. Laurie to double check, until I can look at my schematics.

Regards Dr. Bob
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jvangurp
Copper Member

Canada
3 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2009 :  03:22:42  Show Profile  Visit jvangurp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Dr. Bob. Clearly I have removed the wrong part - a resistor I suspect, and I'll solder it back in. It will be fun to see if the thing is fixable after all.
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2009 :  05:08:03  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
D9 is your reverse protection diode. it looks fine.

Can we please see some close-up (direct-on) pics of the bad solder area? Looks very dodgy to me...
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