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misterdetail
Bronze Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/19/2010 : 19:43:39
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I'd like some suggestions on how to set my DD-6 and use it as my main reverb, like Joe Satriani does. Joe does it with two delays, one set for short and the other for long delay, then combines them. Sounds great, but as I only have one delay I'll have to make it work with one. Please give me some specific settings to try out on my DD-6. In other words, where should I set E.LEVEL, F.BACK, D.TIME, and MODE? Also, I plan to run the DD-6 as the only pedal in my amp's effects loop.
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2010 : 20:36:26
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| I use delay for reverb when i get home from work i will give you my settings |
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PaulH
Gold Member
535 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2010 : 20:42:13
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Shortish delay, less than about 50ms.
Low effect level, say 20-30%.
Adjust the repeats to suit (you may want a lot). |
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misterdetail
Bronze Member
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2010 : 20:54:52
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| Thanks! Some more info on what I'm after. It's the kind of delay/reverb that will stay on all the time and that will work well with both crunchy rhythm and solos. Again, like how Satriani does it. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 00:07:55
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I use delays like that one short/one long as well but i also use a stereo reverb and altogether it sounds massive..to me anyway... ....
AFAIK Joe Bonamassa set his DD-3 delay with all the knobs at 12 o'clock for a Eric Johnson type sound...i think i remember it from a youtube clip where he explains his gear..he also uses two amps at the same time one with delay the other with reverb....
with my two i usually keep the effect level around 10 o clock and the repeats about the same with the delay time at around 10 o clock also with the 2nd DD-3 set for a longish delay at 2 o clock....the delays are still on my board even though i use a rack as well...DD-series delays are great..... 
I'm not 100% but i read somewhere that Satch used to set the short at 400ms,the 2nd DD-3(or a DD-2's possibly) at 800ms and he used a 3rd rack mounted delay unit set at 1200ms don't know how much effect level he added but i think it was similar to mine from pics i saw back then in guitar mags below halfway with a similar setting for the repeats.....this was with his old rig i don't know what he does now....
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 00:36:20
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ok i am home
e.level 12
feedback 12
d.time 10
about 800ms
i get a little bit of an echo. but lower the d.time should do it |
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misterdetail
Bronze Member
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 04:49:49
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Thanks PaulH, FRANZONI and zerksies! I'll try out those settings.
FRANZONI, you didn't say which mode you use for Bonamassa's or your settings. Is it 80, 300, or 800ms? Thanks.
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Foulacy
Bronze Member
USA
65 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 10:47:07
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| if you want reverb you need to set the delay time really short and the effect level really low, otherwise it's not reverb, it's delay... |
Edited by - Foulacy on 02/20/2010 10:47:23 |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 12:45:46
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quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI
with my two i usually keep the effect level around 10 o clock and the repeats about the same with the delay time at around 10 o clock also
I use that exact same setting on mine, I copied it off of Slash's, it's makes for a really great allround setting. |
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misterdetail
Bronze Member
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 15:52:01
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True, Foulacy. I guess what I'm seeking is not true reverb but a mixture of both. The best way I can describe it is how Satriani does it. He uses 2 delays and no reverb. The delay does is not so heavy that it overrides his crunchy rhythm work. But you can hear it's effect especially on his solos and riffs. The delay trails off so perfectly, smoothly, etc.
Dirk, what Mode are you using with those settings? 80, 300, 800ms? Thanks! |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 16:45:21
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Originally posted by misterdetail
Dirk, what Mode are you using with those settings? 80, 300, 800ms? Thanks!
Oh, 800ms, so 10 o'clock is around 350ms I guess. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 18:38:36
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800ms setting for me as well... don't really use the others as i have any 'special' delays programmed in my multi effects unit in the rack... |
Edited by - FRANZONI on 02/20/2010 18:38:54 |
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misterdetail
Bronze Member
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2010 : 21:03:06
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| Thanks again, guys! |
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misterdetail
Bronze Member
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2010 : 03:41:20
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| Okay, my favorite suggestion so far is 10:00 on everything and Mode on 800ms. Not quite Satriani but that won't happen without 2 delays (short & long). Unfortunately, I don't have another delay pedal so I'll have to settle on this for now. The Eric Johnson/Bonamassa setting with everything at 12:00 is sweet, but too much for crunch chords like I play. Great for lead, though. |
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misterdetail
Bronze Member
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2010 : 21:50:59
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Update: I scored a used DD-3 for under $50 this morning from Guitar Center Online! It should arrive by the end of the week, so I'll get to try out some more of the settings posted here for two delay pedals. Also, someone shared with me on the Satriani forum a close-up pic of Joe's Boss delay pedals and settings, taken on stage a few years ago. Here's how he had them set:
Short Delay: E.LEVEL - 11:00, F.BACK - 11:30, D.TIME - 1:00, MODE - 800ms. Long Delay: E.LEVEL - 11:00, F.BACK - 11:30, D.TIME - 5:00, MODE - 800ms. I can't tell exactly what Boss delay pedals they are, but I think I heard they were a DD-2 for short and DD-3 for long. Can't wait to try this out for myself! |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2010 : 01:17:11
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| Congrats Bro'...i even with the rack gear i still kept my two DD-3's on my board..just couldn't let them off it the long delay is also good for the Joe Walsh type echo thing he does sometimes... i still think i read somewhere that Satch had a 3rd rack mount delay unit in his setup set for 1200ms... |
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Delay as Reverb
