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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member
Sweden
257 Posts |
 Posted - 11/26/2009 : 22:20:11
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Hi again!
I love the tones from my VB-2 and I use it pretty much. But... the thing is that it actually is a tone-sucker when on. I hate to admit it, but it really is. So, to solve the problem - heres my first question:
Is there a mod out there or can someone tell me what to change at the board to raise the volume a bit? (i guess that is the problem) A little volymeboost will do the trick i guess and maybe maybe a little more treble, but I think volume is the main thing. I want it to be transparent but effectfull.
Qustion two:
What is the bypass mode actually, the fetswitch itself are a kind of bypass, or??? Don�t get this really. Is the pedal on when off until the knob is turned to bypass?
Cheers mates! |
Edited by - Shoegazers Anonymous on 11/28/2009 20:06:24 |
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guitarfreak1387
Bronze Member
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2009 : 04:19:46
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I wouldent mod a vb-2!!!! Seeing as they are rare. It would almost be a sin in the eyes of the boss gods. This is just my opinion though.
I'd suggest looking into other vibrato pedals. Or if your looking for a fun project you could try out a DIY kit. I know build your own clone has one but I forget the name and it was designed after the vb-2 layout I belive also. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2009 : 07:09:33
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Don�t you dare mod a VB-2, it would be wiser (on this forum) to burn your Jazzmaster (do a Hendrix)  
I suggest putting a booster before VB-2, you can use a GE-7 (or something like that), tape a ruler that connects on both foot plates so you can engage/disengage both VB-2 and GE-7 at one hit with your foot.
If I don�t remember wrong the bypass mode is because this position was �free� on the switch, Boss had to use it/call it something.
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Edited by - Goran on 11/27/2009 07:12:42 |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2009 : 11:19:37
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Good idea from Goran with the GE-7 and the ruler trick.... or you could stick it in a loop off an LS-2,thats what i do with my TR-2 and my delays,i have the level control on the loop set for a slight boost to 'push' the tremolo and the delay out a bit more...also would keep the VB-2 out of the way when not in use along with any other pedals you don't need in your direct chain.... |
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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member
Sweden
257 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2009 : 12:57:42
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Ok, It felt wrong to mod a VB-2 from the beginning. But, I use it and want it to sound good. For me it�s a keeper and seeing from that point it doesnt matter if the mod lower it�s value. The main thing in that case is that it should work well. But, I tryed my CE-3 vith the modeknob set to II and only use output A. In a couple of settings it sounds like the VB-2, but... It has the same problem, it needs to have a volume boost. Is it better to mod that one?
Otherway, if I change one little component on the board and keep the old one to replace it if I change my mind wold work well to. Then I don�t need to drill holes and stuff in the case. Just change one little... But wich one? R10 was I told at another forum. Will that do the trick? Wich value shall I replace it with in that case? |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2009 : 13:28:37
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Originally posted by Shoegazers Anonymous
Ok, It felt wrong to mod a VB-2 from the beginning. But, I use it and want it to sound good. For me it�s a keeper and seeing from that point it doesnt matter if the mod lower it�s value. The main thing in that case is that it should work well. But, I tryed my CE-3 vith the modeknob set to II and only use output A. In a couple of settings it sounds like the VB-2, but... It has the same problem, it needs to have a volume boost. Is it better to mod that one?
Otherway, if I change one little component on the board and keep the old one to replace it if I change my mind wold work well to. Then I don�t need to drill holes and stuff in the case. Just change one little... But wich one? R10 was I told at another forum. Will that do the trick? Wich value shall I replace it with in that case?
You do what you want Shoegazer but try Franzonis or mine idea first, all vintage gear should be kept as original as possible.
Just my stupid idea 
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2009 : 17:14:48
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Shoegazer, could you tell us your settings on VB-2?
I have never had good luck with it.... even payed too much for it  |
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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member
Sweden
257 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2009 : 20:20:13
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Originally posted by Goran
Shoegazer, could you tell us your settings on VB-2?
I have never had good luck with it.... even payed too much for it
Set after a clock, the hours seen from top:
BOSS VB-2
Rate: 7
Depth: 12
Rise Time: 5
Mode: Latch
I use it in many songs in band-situation. It really sounds like a guitartremolo used all time when playing. I have it at second place in pedalchain just because of that - I want it to replace the tremolo at the guitar and it works most truly, the trem on the guitar is on the guitar and are in my opinion the first effect that is not a effect. I only have the compressor before it. A CS-2, whatelse. Another trick is to use it together with a analogue delay, in my case a DM-2 set at many repeats. The pitch-thing that the VB-2 does sounds exactly like my old RE-201 did when the tape got out of line. (or if it was something else that made it pitch) It was not supposed to sound like that, but it sounded crazy and wrong in a good way and I started to like the sound. But, in a band situation you sometimes need to stand up for it, cause there are many peoples who play that think that it sounds awful and out of tune. But thats the point! Thats the effect! Mostly for me there have been the bassplayers who have complaint about it. When our record is finished I promise to link to a soundsample.
B.T.W I have payed too much for all my pedals... It hurts when people bid on them for nothing.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2009 : 02:10:24
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Hi Guys
For those that are not familiar with the VB-2,
here is a link to a pretty good example.
It's about 1/3 of the way through the short video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zew3P9zheAg
Regards Dr. Bob  |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2009 : 16:03:18
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Sounds good,but i can see why possibly it didn't sell originally..most people would have already incorparated that technique into their playing especially in the era it was launched by boss..most players we coming from the rock/blues era listening to a load of players like BB.King,Clapton etc (or even earlier the likes of the great Django was using finger vibrato back in the 30's and 40's)...and would of learned finger vibrato listening to them or used the tremolo on the guitar if it had one ala Hank B Marvin and some of the american surf guitarists...
the guy demostrating the VB-2 has a great sound with that strat,nearly makes me want to re-mod my jap squier and put a humbucker in the bridge position......... |
Edited by - FRANZONI on 11/28/2009 16:05:30 |
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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member
Sweden
257 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2009 : 20:19:09
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I opened up the box and find that there was two trimpots at the board. So... I had no choice, I just had to plug it in and turn the two knobs while playing. The lower one was the bias and did�nt do much. It should be set where it was set, in the middle. But the upper one was a kind of depth nr.2. If turned counterclockwise the effect became stronger. As if I should have turn my tremarm all the way until it stopped. Then I figure it out (or at least thought so, maybe it was placebo effect) that when set the inner trimpot at full depth (all the way counter clockwise) I could lower the depthpot at the front instead, and when the front depth is increased at front - the "tonesuck" was gone.
But maybe it was placebo. But I still think that it became clearer and had the brilliance at top as it was with the pedal off. It is so simple to do, just loosen the four philipsscrews and lift off the lock and gently lift the board wich is connected to another board at front via some kind of multicable.
Anyone else who have noticed this or tryed it out? Can something burn or so?
New setting:
Rate: 7
Depth: 9
Raisetime: 5
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Shoegazers Anonymous
Silver Member
Sweden
257 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2009 : 20:23:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Shoegazers Anonymous
I opened up the box and find that there was two trimpots at the board. So... I had no choice, I just had to plug it in and turn the two knobs while playing. The lower one was the bias and did�nt do much. It should be set where it was set, in the middle. But the upper one was a kind of depth nr.2. If turned counterclockwise the effect became stronger. As if I should have turn my tremarm all the way until it stopped. Then I figure it out (or at least thought so, maybe it was placebo effect) that when set the inner trimpot at full depth (all the way counter clockwise) I could lower the depthpot at the front instead, and when the front depth is increased at front - the "tonesuck" was gone.
But maybe it was placebo. But I still think that it became clearer and had the brilliance at top as it was with the pedal off. It is so simple to do, just loosen the four philipsscrews and lift off the lock and gently lift the board wich is connected to another board at front via some kind of multicable.
Anyone else who have noticed this or tryed it out? Can something burn or so?
New setting:
Rate: 7
Depth: 9
Raisetime: 5
P.s I couldnt find the R10 resistor at the board. Should it be written at the board or is it named something else?
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