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moonmarkcus
Silver Member

Nicaragua
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Posted - 11/10/2009 :  19:06:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi everybody, im tring to fix an AMT Fatal Tube Overdrive. Simptons are following.

1. When effect is off, pedal let pass a distorted sound of guitar.
2. When effect in on, pedal doesnt sound ( mute at all)

pedal has discrete components ( as you can see on pictures) and I noticed TL062 opamps inside ... I have a lot of good experiences repairing my Boss analog pedals, but I dont known how can troubleshoot this kind of pedal... Please give me ideas in order to understand how it works and probably resurrect this nice pedal!!!





cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2009 :  21:11:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you manage to find a schematic for this pedal ? If so, can you post the link ?
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moonmarkcus
Silver Member

Nicaragua
224 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2009 :  21:37:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cctsim

Did you manage to find a schematic for this pedal ? If so, can you post the link ?


Hello my friend.
I dont have any document about it, I was seeking last 3 days on Internet without success!!

Do you have any idea to begin this repair process ??
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2009 :  22:09:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It looks like the switching circuit is not working properly.

Is it true bypass or electronic switching ? I can't tell from the pictures.

What are the ICs ? Can you post their labels ?
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moonmarkcus
Silver Member

Nicaragua
224 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  00:02:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most of them are TL062, tomorrow I will edit pictures in order to show you every IC with related label...it supossed to be "true bypass"

Do you need any more pic?

Edited by - moonmarkcus on 11/11/2009 00:06:20
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  01:10:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it's true bypass the symptoms indicate a failure of the switch.

It should be easy to follow the path from the input jack, to the 3PDT, to the output jack.

Is it 3PDT ?
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moonmarkcus
Silver Member

Nicaragua
224 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  19:27:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Switch doesnt seem to be like 3DPT, inside it has a spring that push a switch on board.



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Dr. Bob
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Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2009 :  07:10:48  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi moonmarkcus

I went to all my technical & Chip databases.
I spent at least 30-40 mins searching, but I was unable to locate
any data on the Phillips BE878-01.

I have a question for you, actually the manufacturer.
Where is the Tube?
They call it the AMT Fatal "Tube" Overdrive, & have a picture, of a small twin triode "tube" on the artwork of the case.

But I don't see any tubes or tube sockets, talk about deceptive marketing.

The board mounted push button switch, will be controlling something similar to a flip flop circuit in the Boss pedal for bypass.

Do you know what happened to it before it stopped working?
Have you traced the DC power in - does it go to a protection diode?
Is the diode open circuit?
If it was reveresed voltage, & the diode is open, I'll bet good money
that the all or some of the opamps are fried.

As I've mentioned many many times before, op-amps HATE REVERSE Volts.

Good luck with your repair.
Pity you don't live closer, we could have a look at it together.
I still want to see where the tube goes...

Regards Dr. Bob
5959

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 11/12/2009 07:12:10
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moonmarkcus
Silver Member

Nicaragua
224 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2009 :  18:56:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HI Dr!!

Where is the Tube? Good question , Maybe was disintegrated by reverse voltaje !!!! Nahhhh, it supposed to be simulated by circuit , I guess the word "Tube" is the hook , so I dont think we will found any tube, at least we will deploy a new nice mod!!!
I dont know how can I found protection diodes on discrete components PCB,Only thing that I know:DC adapter is supplying power and ON/OFF effect LED is working


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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2009 :  19:33:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My suggestion is to take out the footswitch and check that is working properly.

The description of the fault suggests that something unusual is happening there.
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bside2234
Copper Member

USA
15 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2009 :  18:37:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also with those board mounted input/output jacks, it couldn't hurt to check the joints on them. I would reheat them just for good measure.
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