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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/01/2008 : 07:15:31
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Are Monster Cables worth the high prices?
I have a large pedal setup and am wondering if they might help with hum, hiss, and/or noise that I get from what I assume is bad patch cables or too long of a chain.
Also would it be wise to invest in a small, yet expensive power strip from Monster Power for my home recordings? |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2008 : 07:27:11
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Cheaper to buy a NS-2  |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2008 : 07:43:04
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Yes on both counts.
Go read this thread over on Orange's Forum:
http://www.orangeamps.com/forumtest/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24054
Stick with Monster Rock & Mogami Gold.. stay away from the premium lines of the 2 brands.
If this next link isn't included over at Orange, then here you go. Its MP3s of cable comparisons:
http://www.proguitar.de/AudioDemo/CompareCables/CompareCables.html
I have ALL Monster & frankly I'm a little sick in buying them only because they ARE a little pricey but I know I have some of the best cables available. It seems I'm picking a new one up every other week. I only have 1 Mogami & its a 25' foot. It sounds great.
I run Furman power-strips everywhere in my bedroom studio.. I'm up to 7 now (bought one yesterday). But even better than a power-strip would be the (usually rack mountable) Power Conditioners. Furman & Monster make the ONLY brands I would trust & consider purchasing.
Hope this helps! |
Edited by - DeFrag on 02/01/2008 07:47:00 |
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 02/01/2008 : 08:43:19
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Thanks DeFrag, That was very helpful. I read earlier that you live on the non boss gear thread and respect your opinion highly.
I have previously never heard Mogami or Fulltone. Now their cables seem better than Monster.
Haven't hear of Furman power strips either. Will have to do some googleing about those to find out price differences and or quality (any opinions?).
Oh and thanks for the suggestion pedals 4 pv, but I already own one to quiet down all the limiting and compression I deal with. And it works well enough. |
Edited by - Right Foot Boss on 02/02/2008 05:40:16 |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2008 : 09:35:27
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A cheap way of getting very good patch cables is to make them by yourself (or have a friend good at soldering do it for you) from George L cables.
Don�t buy George L�s contacts though, they are not very dependable in the long run. It�s a nightmare having a bad connection on one off 10-15 patch cables during a gig�
Stinkfoot has a good article about George L on his homepage, www.stinkfoot.se
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2008 : 10:33:41
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I bought the planet waves pedalboard kit for my stuff a while back and i find it great,you get 10' of cable and 10 right angle jacks..no soldering required just a small screw to tighten at the end of the jack.... ....ok my board is small 8 pedals in all and one of them is a LS-2 to keep the top row out of the chain when not in use but i've never noticed any noise or hiss or deterioration in sound quality with them...i got the kit for about 50 euro..... |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2008 : 16:36:54
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Not a problem mate.. that's what they pay me for!
Good luck. |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2008 : 22:19:11
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Originally posted by DeFrag
Not a problem mate.. that's what they pay me for!
Good luck.
DeFrag, Do mean to say that you are being PAID to push this overhyped, overpriced, B.S. to members of this forum?   Nice work if you can get it |
Edited by - pedals 4 pv on 02/01/2008 22:29:29 |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2008 : 23:03:07
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Originally posted by pedals 4 pv
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Originally posted by DeFrag
Not a problem mate.. that's what they pay me for!
Good luck.
DeFrag, Do mean to say that you are being PAID to push this overhyped, overpriced, B.S. to members of this forum? Nice work if you can get it
Nope. It was a figure of speech in reference to my many posts answering & overall helping people out on the forum here. People have been actively participating on the threads I've created, personally thanking me for the information, new products, my personal experiences, & time I've spent providing technical information & support here at Bossarea.
Here's the deal, I ran across a decent thread over at the Orange Forum where guys had been discussing & testing different cables & I simply wanted to point the thread out so those people on THIS forum who were interested in (hopefully) unbiased opinions based on actual testing between the cable brands could check it out for themselves so they would be better informed to make a good decision for themselves. I particularly thought the link to MP3s comparing different cables was interesting, although I wanted for more.
I'm just proud to have people think I'm helpful with as many posts as I've been putting out as of late. In no way am I affiliated or a sponsor of any product. I like high quality equipment & want to push the same which means if we can keep the good companies in business, they'll be around for a long time thus continuing to provide us with that which we have so grown accustomed.. that is, great products with good support.
So again, the "figure of speech" thing you apparently hung up on was me referring to myself as a helpful participant on this forum as a dare I say, veteran representative of Bossarea itself. Bossarea "pays" me by keeping this forum open of which I am happy to be a part of.
Now, in defense of my contribution itself: I do not subscribe nor do I "push" BS. The thread over at Orange points out the fact that Monster & Mogami is a couple of the better, name brand, high quality cables available. I wholeheartedly agree because my studio has NOTHING BUT Monster cables save for that one 25' Mogami. I have over $1000 in cable alone & can attest to Monster quality based on first hand experience. I spend my money very wisely & would not recommend a product I couldn't stand behind. Are they expensive? Yes. Are they worth it? IMFO, yes. I always question what I read but can confidently state that I wish everyone reading this long post, has the ability to enjoy higher quality equipment. If I can personally help those close to me.. (meaning you guys), get more out of their own musical experiences, I've done my job because I consider you all to be my newest friends.
I stand behind good quality cables & have been happy with my choices & recommendations to others thus far. The links provided are as stated above, FYI regarding the topic at hand & can make up your own mind armed with more information than I can provide. If I see something potentially helpful or interesting on the 'net, I have & shall continue to point it out to you guys.
I've made extreme efforts lately to be as active & giving as possible & am sincerely sorry that you misinterpreted my innocuous statement. I suppose it could have been misunderstood & obviously in all likelihood my last post included a poor choice of words. It really was just a post shot from the hip wherein I was thanking someone for thanking me for helping them out. I believe I've done nothing wrong & further believe I've done an outstanding job around here on Bossarea.
Pedals4PV, I have valued our commonalities, interests, & friendly interaction here on the board of all boards. I hope this was just a simple misunderstanding as I would like to continue our friendship & look forward to sharing a pitcher some day.
If you now understand, then no harm done. 
Otherwise, I'm not quite sure what else I can tell you.
Honestly though, I am quite tired of typing in my own defense & think I'll stop now. |
Edited by - DeFrag on 02/01/2008 23:31:16 |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2008 : 01:26:57
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| Sorry DeFrag I misunderstood |
Edited by - pedals 4 pv on 02/02/2008 01:27:15 |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2008 : 02:08:15
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Yay, worth living again.  |
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DarrinPA
Silver Member
USA
221 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2008 : 05:40:05
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I use Monster Rock [gold] Series and they're great. What you're paying for is the fact that you can always replace them at no cost. I used to break cheap cables everyday, literally. It wasn't worth it, not to mention that my clean channel sounded distorted half the time.
I also have used the lower series, 100 and 500. Both have worked fine. And Monster Power is good even at cheap prices. Cheaper Furman power strips doesn't always protect the in-coming power, just out-going, so if you plug too many things in it will trip the circuit, but it won't help against power surges all the time. Monster does. |
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member
USA
881 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 07:58:25
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I went for the Fulltone cables. I found em cheaper than monsters. And much sexier looking (they look like black gold ).
I A/B'd my different cables to the Fulltone. I was thinking that there might be a real slight difference, like the difference between DS-1 MIJ vs. MIT. But the difference was a lot more than that. Cables do make a difference.
I'm probably going to go all Fulltone for my pedal board. One cable a week until my pedal board is complete. Two down, forty or so more to go. I don't think I'll be able to afford any pedals for a while. |
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
119 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 10:19:42
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 20:05:34
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Originally posted by Mr Arkadin
Personally i find Monster overrated and i hate their business practices.
I find them to be overpriced and way overrated as well, but would you care to share what business practices they engage in that annoy you? I mean their literature, to me at least, seems to misinform the uninformed at times, which I find to be annoying and misleading to consumers at times, but I was just wondering what else they may do that you don't agree with... |
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
119 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 21:24:03
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Originally posted by jack
[quote]but I was just wondering what else they may do that you don't agree with...
It's all the lawsuits against anyone using the word 'monster' - i mean it's a fucking word, sorry guys you can't copyright it, yet they continue. i know for a fact that a certain Minimoog software emulation's name was changed slightly to avoid any possible litigation. Ridiculous.
Mind you, in audiophile circles you can buy a metre of hi-fi cable for $10,000 or more if you really want, i'm sure it'll sound so much better
From wiki:
"Trademark
Monster Cable is aggressively protecting its name and trademark by filing numerous lawsuits and trademark infringement claims against dozens of companies for using the word "monster" in names, products or services.[5] Monster Cable CEO Noel Lee defended these actions by saying "We have an obligation to protect our trademark; otherwise we'd lose it" [1]. Some of the items they are suing about are:
Monster Garage
Monster House
Monster Energy Drink
MonsterHTPC
Snow Monsters (a kid's skiing group)
MonsterVintage, small used clothing store
Monsters, Inc., an animated feature film
Monsters of the Midway, a nickname of the Chicago Bears football team
Fenway Park's Monster seats
Monster.com employment website" |
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