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redundant
Silver Member
Turkey
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 Posted - 07/01/2008 : 20:10:56
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We usually celebrate the good here, but as Goran just opened the "bad" guitar thread, I want to discuss Awful Guitar Solos. This actually occurred to me on the bus to work this morning, listening to The Who's Baba O'Reilly for the first time in years (discounting the remixed edited version used for CSI:NY), and there, at 3:05, the most dinky, thin sounding solo emerges to almost kill a massive song. The only good thing to say about it is that it is short.
Anyway, what have got - which solos really sucked for you? |
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Vim Fuego
Gold Member
Denmark
566 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2008 : 22:04:57
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Thats "Easy".. by Faith No More
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
837 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2008 : 23:04:54
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| michael jackson beat it w/ solo by eddie van halen tops my list of "wtf that was craptastic" guitar solos of all time. |
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member
USA
564 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 01:00:10
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| Anything by Kurt Cobain. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 02:17:25
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although i'm a fan of andy summers...some of the solos during the police era were a bit bogey.... 'so lonely 'stands out for one......wouldn't be a big fan of kurt cobain either...... |
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
837 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 04:36:39
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hehe.
while cobain didn't have much playing ability, he did have the skills to write a decent melody for a pop/rock song.
like half of his solos were just the same as the vocal melody :)
his solos are easy and lack technical prowess but i couldn't picture the solo in smells like teen spirit any other way.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 09:13:16
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There are two things to this;
A solo played with sour notes
A solo that just say nothing
Sour notes; some of Neil Youngs live recordings with Crazy Horse. But Neil�s solos are pure magic anyway, and I don�t mind a false note here and there as long as the passion is there.
Saying nothing; most shredders
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redundant
Silver Member
Turkey
247 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 10:30:12
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| I'm a good Canadian boy (even if I live in Istanbul), so I grew up learning Neil Young songs. But the problem with Neil's solos is length: the world does not need an 18:00 version of Cowgirl in the Sand. I can easily see how way too long could equal awful for many people. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 10:46:08
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Originally posted by redundant
I'm a good Canadian boy (even if I live in Istanbul), so I grew up learning Neil Young songs. But the problem with Neil's solos is length: the world does not need an 18:00 version of Cowgirl in the Sand. I can easily see how way too long could equal awful for many people.
Don�t get me wrong, I�m a huge Neil Young fan, I love his electric playing and I don�t mind if he freaks out for 20 minutes.
But technically speaking he�s not a great guitarist, Yngwie is, but he lacks passion and feeling.
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Krall
Bronze Member
Canada
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 11:14:31
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| U2 solos aren't that great..You can tell that The Edge is using a lot of delay to try to hide that fact.. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 13:11:05
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Originally posted by Krall
U2 solos aren't that great..You can tell that The Edge is using a lot of delay to try to hide that fact..
again were getting into the 'what else would fit' debate.... personally i couldn't imagine some of the U2 songs with anything else except Edges solos drenched with delay...IMHO he's pretty unique in guitar playing terms as you know it's him instantly...i think he is more into creating soundscapes than wigging out on the guitar.... as Satriani said one time " it's not about jumping higher or running faster,it's about the quality of the expression".... |
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happyplucker
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
126 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 13:53:24
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interesting thread.
franzoni, wouldnt you agree however, that that statement by satriani is a little contradictory, to me anyway, as he is a guitar player very capable etc... therefore to him, at least once in his life is must have been about jumping highrer or running faster?
i agree however with the fact that one note played with feeling and musical "X", is the magic ingredient. |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 17:20:56
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The outro solo of Neil Young's "southern man", I can't stand all those out of key unison bends and double stops.
I actually like the delay on the "Easy" solo. |
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
603 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 20:26:31
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the 'best' of the worst is easy... "tonight I'm gonna rock you (tonite)" by Spinal Tap!
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Originally posted by Vim Fuego
Thats "Easy".. by Faith No More
Cheers
aww... I saw FNM play this song on Letterman or some such tv show a long time back, and Jim Martin whipped out his Zippo lighter to play the slide on its solo. I always thought FNM's cover was a fairly reverent version of that song. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 21:36:10
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Originally posted by happyplucker
interesting thread.
franzoni, wouldnt you agree however, that that statement by satriani is a little contradictory, to me anyway, as he is a guitar player very capable etc... therefore to him, at least once in his life is must have been about jumping highrer or running faster?
i agree however with the fact that one note played with feeling and musical "X", is the magic ingredient.
absolutly bro.... he also said in the same interview something along the lines of " a lot of players said to hell with that i want to be like eddie van halen "...!! but i think he understood that just because someone like the Edge or B.B.King play one or two notes where Satch or Vai might play 20 it can still work....i don't think The Edges solos are bad just different...i thought that some of the early police stuff just sounded out of tune... thats what i consider bad or endless widdling on the guitar going nowhere....i,m not really into long traditional solos,i went to see Mclaughlin a while back and he was amazing but it can be boring in parts.... i like the way Gilmour on the Floyd live at Pompeii might wire his wah backwards to create the seagull noises on echoes or whip out a bottleneck with loads of echo and fuzz on his sound....Jeff Beck also does some amazing things to keep you on the edge of your seat IMHO.......i suppose i'm getting into soundscapes a little bit myself as i get older..... ..... |
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FunkenGrooven
Silver Member
USA
360 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2008 : 04:53:26
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Franz I gotta agree with you on the U2 thing while the Edge isn't a shred monster he can create a soundscape and to me that is what a quality musician does. I found a clip of one of my fave songs from them where he plays a little "mini solo" at the end thats not on the original I was a young man going through a divorce when this song came out and if you can hang till the 4:52,53 mark he nails one note that makes your heart cave in, great stuff.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X0i93JSkYP4
On the other hand this guy though impressive technique does nothing for me musically, it's just something to show off to other guitar players, and didn't we all get started to impress the chicks anyway?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0C6XzzDDWOs&feature=related
As far as Neil Young goes how bout the 1 note solo in Cinnamon Girl...Yikes |
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