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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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 Posted - 10/21/2006 : 22:52:59
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dr bob...try running the cs3 with the attack up full and the sustain below 50%...i use it this way as a clean booster for country type chickin pickin....it was off my board far ages but now its back big time..i'm not mad about it with the sustain up much more it seems to 'squash' the sound too much to me....i also find it drives my ds1 (also with the dist and the treb down below 50%) into a wiry sort of SRV type sound thats starting to grow on me..... |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2006 : 06:34:59
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
dr bob...try running the cs3 with the attack up full and the sustain below 50%...i use it this way as a clean booster for country type chickin pickin....it was off my board far ages but now its back big time..i'm not mad about it with the sustain up much more it seems to 'squash' the sound too much to me....i also find it drives my ds1 (also with the dist and the treb down below 50%) into a wiry sort of SRV type sound thats starting to grow on me.....
Hi FRANZONI
Thanks for the tip about your favorite setting for the CS-3
I'll try iy out a bit later. I have some MAN work to do around our new home, I shouldn't even be here right now.......
.... No wasn't me on the bossarea site just then.
FRANZONI, In that setting does it clamp the dynamics very much, cos I use a lot of volume dynamics Loud-Soft-Medium-Loud when I play, it adds a lot of interest to the music, & it makes the punters listen a bit more, during the soft bits.
Thanks again. 
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2006 : 13:13:42
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i'm not a 100% sure what you mean by 'clamping' dr bob..if you mean do you get a volume swell on certain notes or it cuts off others like a noisegate i have to say i've never noticed...i find it gives me more dynamics for clean lead playing but like i said i keep the sustain down 'cause i'm not mad about the 'squash'... have you tried any other make of compressor or thought about modding it to keeley specs..? i believe a lot of top country players are using his compressor or getting the boss ones modded by him no problem to you ithink to mod it yourself...!!! .....i saw a guy a couple of months ago on holidays in spain who was using the cs3 into a small peavey combo i think it was a classic 30 with a reissue strat and he was getting a great sound thats what made me go back to try it again....going off topic a bit i know... but i dated my main pedals this morning and the cs3,ds1,od2,ch1 and one of the dd3's are all eighties vintage i don,t know if this makes any difference but if i had to pull a handful of pedals off my board it would be these and this was before i dated them,the dd3 to my ears seems a bit 'warmer' than the newer one....don't get me wrong i love all my pedals but if i had to pick....this is purely my own ear.....it would be these.. my favourite of the newer ones is the tr2 i've got into the tremolo sound in the last year or so...and eric clapton is using one now as well .....i'm in good company.... |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2006 : 18:59:23
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Dr. Bob,
I had to give up on the CS-3. Even with mods, it's still just too much to tweak. I really regretted selling my Dyna Comp. I just bought a new one yesterday... |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2006 : 03:11:58
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Originally posted by diggum12
Dr. Bob,
I had to give up on the CS-3. Even with mods, it's still just too much to tweak. I really regretted selling my Dyna Comp. I just bought a new one yesterday...
Hi Diggum12 & guys
can you tell me if the IC in your New Dyna Comp is a
CA3080 or the
LM3080
can you also tell me the suffix letters on the chip.
What are the Mods that you did to your pedal.
Even in a PM.
Regards Dr. Bob |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2006 : 03:24:18
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
dr bob...try running the cs3 with the attack up full and the sustain below 50%...i use it this way as a clean booster for country type chickin pickin....it was off my board far ages but now its back big time..i'm not mad about it with the sustain up much more it seems to 'squash' the sound too much to me....i also find it drives my ds1 (also with the dist and the treb down below 50%) into a wiry sort of SRV type sound thats starting to grow on me.....
Hi FRANZONI
Thanks for the sample settings, I tried them out last night.
I played those settings for about 2 hours last night, & while it gave me more a an insight into the CS-3,
It's still sounded thin & weak (quote by Duggum12)
I tried a number of different guitars with humbuckers & single coils
but it gave me pretty much the same results.
I have been told to do an Opto-Mod on it, before I retire this pedal.
I guess I'm just used to the sound of my DBX comp.
BTW mine was part of a batch of pedals, I bought from a local pawn dealer.
I have heard good things about it's earlier brother/sister the CS-2
Regards & still not going to give up on my CS-3 |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2006 : 23:43:00
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Hey Dr. Bob,
The newer Dyna Comps have the CA3080. I like that chip w/ that pedal. 
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 09:28:46
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Originally posted by diggum12
Hey Dr. Bob,
The newer Dyna Comps have the CA3080. I like that chip w/ that pedal.
Hi Diggum12
So can you remember what the older Dyna Comp's used?
were they the LM3080 or something else?
I remember seeing some old compressors, built with the NE-571
or some thing like that (it was a com-pander chip).
I know it was an NE-Something..... 
It seems that, the cob webs get a little, thicker every year. |
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guirat
Silver Member
United Kingdom
186 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 15:20:15
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Just had a look at a 1980 block logo Dyna Comp. The chip reads:
8029
LM
3080N
Sorry to jump in, I've literally just received this pedal - a replacement for one that was borrowed from me in the mid 80's and never returned. I believe the earlier 'script' Dyna Comps had a different board design without the chip. |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 15:31:07
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| Yep, older ones are the LM3080. Welcome guirat! |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 15:32:20
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Guirat, would you mind emailing a pic of the PCB to Dr. Bob and I? Both sides? Pretty please? |
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guirat
Silver Member
United Kingdom
186 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 15:40:47
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Hi Diggum, thanks very much for the welcome.
I couldn't believe the weight of that pedal when I received it, I don't remember them being that heavy (but it's been a long time). It certainly feels like it was built to last. My guitar's still in parts for a rewire so it'll be a while before I can test it, I'm hoping it does actually work 
Just saw your reply, I'll get some pics taken today and send them. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 16:04:42
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Originally posted by guirat
Just had a look at a 1980 block logo Dyna Comp. The chip reads:
8029
LM
3080N
I believe the earlier 'script' Dyna Comps had a different board design without the chip.
Hi guirat
The 8029 means 1980 week 29 in that year.
The LM is the prefix for National Semiconductors (NS)
If it was a (CA) that was a RCA chip I think.
the 3080 is the chip number,
It's an OTA Operational transconductance OpAmp
The N means plastic case,
If the cob webs are working tonight, it's nearly 2am here.
And can you elaborate on your last comment, about the boards being different (without the chip)
The CA3080, when it was first released, it was also, in a METAL can type package, with 8 legs, and it looked a lot like, an old metal can transistor at first glance.
Perhaps that's what you have interpreted, as (without the chip).
Here is an actual description from www.datasheet4u.com
CA3080A Data Sheet September 1998 File Number 475.4 2MHz, Operational Transconductance Ampli#64257;er (OTA) The CA3080 and CA3080A types are Gatable-Gain Blocks which utilize the unique operational-transconductanceampli#64257;er (OTA) concept described in Application Note AN6668
Sorry if I made your Brain Hurt. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 16:17:46
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Originally posted by diggum12
Guirat, would you mind emailing a pic of the PCB to Dr. Bob and I? Both sides? Pretty please?
Hi Diggum12 & Guirat
Thanks for thinking of me Diggum12.
Guirat, thanks for offering to take pics of the board in your Dyna Comp.
If you can spare the time, please remember,
The MORE PIC"S the BETTER.
I don't know about Diggum12 & the other guys, but I have been trying to achive off as much info & actual pic's of any & all old pedals & equipment.
For non-Profit use. 
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2006 : 16:26:13
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Hi Diggum12
Diggum`1 how's your nice new MODED Dyna Comp.
I'm still fighting with the CS-3
you summued it up well when you stated "too weak & too thin)
I decided to build the Dyna Comp, they cost HEAPs over here, & there seems to be no,
used ones on EvilBay.au
I also had a close family friend ask me to build him one as well.
So ...........
I spent a bit of the weekend trying to source a CA3080
All my local suppliers have dropped stocking this chip.
I have an other rep coming in to work tomorrow, I will ask her, to source me a few.
Though, I did find a supplier that has the metal can type, they want a ridiculous $9.90 Aust for one.
Hey, what's that Epiphone 25 Watter you told me about? I have been looking at the 5W valve junior.. |
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