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bossarea
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Posted - 06/20/2005 :  13:21:27  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Have you seen the new Cooltron pedals from Vox? They contain a Ecc82/12AU7 valve and they're running of 9V or 4 AA batteries

There's something fishy about the whole thing though.

Here's a quote from voxamps.com
Normally, tubes are used at high voltages and this restricts their use in battery-powered devices such as guitar effects pedals. Historically, attempts have been made to use tubes at low voltages in what has been dubbed �starvation� mode, but these circuits don�t allow the tube to function in an acceptable manner. The tube simply cannot be biased to a satisfactory operating condition. Plus, the necessary heater (filament) current is too high to deliver acceptable battery life. Imagine how annoying it would be to have to change batteries every ten minutes during a gig!

Here�s what makes the COOLTRON system tick. The COOLTRON circuit basically operates by using two very special signal paths. The first is the �servo circuit,� which provides the right conditions between the plate of the tube and the grid. This achieves controllable, stable parameters for the tube and provides the correct operating conditions for the tube to function as it would if run at a higher voltage. The second circuit is a patented power supply that provides a low voltage, low current supply to the heater elements in the tube. Since the tube is now running at such a reduced supply level, the anode current is much smaller than normal. This means that the amount of heat required at the cathode to achieve sufficient cathode current emission is much smaller � hence the ability to run the heaters at a lower level and for COOLTRON pedals to run for 16 hours on 4 x AA batteries!


I just don't understand how they can avoid running in starvation mode. Right conditions between the plate and grid? What? Here's JJ's datasheet: http://www.jj-electronic.com/tube_ecc82.htm
I can't see any right condition unless the plate has at least 100V.

Anyone understand what Vox come up with here?

Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 06/28/2005 :  11:58:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And anyone heard/tested them???
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boy echo
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Posted - 09/18/2005 :  13:41:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i find the big ben od to be a bit harsh
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