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jack
Platinum Member
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 Posted - 02/06/2010 : 14:42:18
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Is there one effect you love hearing, but for some reason you can never incorporate into your own playing or music?
For me, I'd have to say its Wah-Wah....I love hearing people like Hendrix, SRV, and even early Kirk Hammett use the wah-wah pedal. I like it so much, I want to try and use it in my playing, but perhaps I just need to practice and play with it more, but I cannot seem to get the proper wah technique down...
So is there an effect you like, but when you try to use it, you just don't seem to be able use it EFFECTively? |
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silvertone6120
Gold Member
USA
609 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 15:22:09
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Not really an "effect" per se...but I can't play a Stratocaster!
I mean...I can theoretically play a Stratocaster as easily as I can any other guitar, but I can't make one sound worth crap! I love to listen to SRV tear one up, or Jimmie Vaughan, or Clapton, Hendrix, Buddy Holly made one sound great way back when...but when I pick one up it just doesn't sound right to me. I just sound really thin on one(and before anyone chimes in with "it's the single coils", all my electric guitars currently have single coils), so I stick with my hollowbodies.
And it's not the hollowbodies either. There've been times I've been playing solids more(some times exclusively) but I'd try a Strat and it just felt lifeless to me.
Sorry to go slightly off topic here...it's not really an effect, but the Strat tone is a sound I love to hear but I just can't make it happen. |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 15:43:21
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Originally posted by silvertone6120
Not really an "effect" per se...but I can't play a Stratocaster!
I mean...I can theoretically play a Stratocaster as easily as I can any other guitar, but I can't make one sound worth crap! I love to listen to SRV tear one up, or Jimmie Vaughan, or Clapton, Hendrix, Buddy Holly made one sound great way back when...but when I pick one up it just doesn't sound right to me. I just sound really thin on one(and before anyone chimes in with "it's the single coils", all my electric guitars currently have single coils), so I stick with my hollowbodies.
And it's not the hollowbodies either. There've been times I've been playing solids more(some times exclusively) but I'd try a Strat and it just felt lifeless to me.
Sorry to go slightly off topic here...it's not really an effect, but the Strat tone is a sound I love to hear but I just can't make it happen.
Actually, I know what you mean about strats. I like looking at them, and seeing other people play them well, but personally I choose not to play them cause the layout makes everything in the way of everything else, for me at least, cause the middle PU and volume always get in my way.... |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 16:05:17
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Originally posted by silvertone6120
Not really an "effect" per se...but I can't play a Stratocaster!
I mean...I can theoretically play a Stratocaster as easily as I can any other guitar, but I can't make one sound worth crap! I love to listen to SRV tear one up, or Jimmie Vaughan, or Clapton, Hendrix, Buddy Holly made one sound great way back when...but when I pick one up it just doesn't sound right to me. I just sound really thin on one(and before anyone chimes in with "it's the single coils", all my electric guitars currently have single coils), so I stick with my hollowbodies.
And it's not the hollowbodies either. There've been times I've been playing solids more(some times exclusively) but I'd try a Strat and it just felt lifeless to me.
Sorry to go slightly off topic here...it's not really an effect, but the Strat tone is a sound I love to hear but I just can't make it happen.
I would say the same thing about Les Pauls, I have always loved the tone from Peter Green, Bluesbreaker Clapton and Paul Kossoff, but I have had a few LPīs but never liked them.
A P90 Les Paul Special or Junior is on the other hand really nice to play.
When I started playing my dream guitar no 1 was a Les Paul, I saved money a long time to get one but could only get enough for a Strat, and to this day a Strat is no 1   |
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aaronharmon
Silver Member
USA
271 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 16:13:44
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Originally posted by jack
Is there one effect you love hearing, but for some reason you can never incorporate into your own playing or music?
For me, I'd have to say its Wah-Wah....I love hearing people like Hendrix, SRV, and even early Kirk Hammett use the wah-wah pedal. I like it so much, I want to try and use it in my playing, but perhaps I just need to practice and play with it more, but I cannot seem to get the proper wah technique down...
So is there an effect you like, but when you try to use it, you just don't seem to be able use it EFFECTively?
Wahs are a little difficult. I definately need work in that area. I have read that you should record your signal dry and then add the wah later. That way you are learning to use the wah without the distraction of playing the guitar. After a little practice it becomes second nature and then you can do it while you play without thinking about it. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 16:19:29
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Originally posted by silvertone6120
Not really an "effect" per se...but I can't play a Stratocaster!
I mean...I can theoretically play a Stratocaster as easily as I can any other guitar, but I can't make one sound worth crap! I love to listen to SRV tear one up, or Jimmie Vaughan, or Clapton, Hendrix, Buddy Holly made one sound great way back when...but when I pick one up it just doesn't sound right to me. I just sound really thin on one(and before anyone chimes in with "it's the single coils", all my electric guitars currently have single coils), so I stick with my hollowbodies.
And it's not the hollowbodies either. There've been times I've been playing solids more(some times exclusively) but I'd try a Strat and it just felt lifeless to me.
Sorry to go slightly off topic here...it's not really an effect, but the Strat tone is a sound I love to hear but I just can't make it happen.
I've been playing Strats for 85/90% of my time playing guitar and I find it hard to play any other type of guitar and get the same tones and sounds... don't get me wrong i love the fat sound of Les Pauls,Gretchs etc but the body shape and the feel is too hard to get used to for long periods of time,the one of the few non strat guitars i could probably play is a 335 as i started out on a Fender Coronado II with(original DeArmonds silvertone.... which i still own as it has a strat type neck)...even my tele is hard sometimes as i love the strats whammy bar as well(too much hendrix and jeff beck)...and being able to bend behind the nut and manipulating the volume,tone and 5 way switch on the fly to acheieve different sounds....i think with a strat your technique develops in a certain way and maybe that doesn't transcribe too well to other guitars and vice versa...heres a pic of the coronado....
P.S ...BTW the effect i like hearing that i don't have is a Uni-Vibe....Gilmour and the Floyd,Hendrix especially 'machine gun' and then Dr Bob turned me onto Robin Thrower...i'm Hooked..the closest i can come is my Dynacord Leslie unit but is still dooesn't quite capture the watery throb of the Uni-vibe... |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 16:31:09
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Originally posted by aaronharmon
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Wahs are a little difficult. I definately need work in that area. I have read that you should record your signal dry and then add the wah later. That way you are learning to use the wah without the distraction of playing the guitar. After a little practice it becomes second nature and then you can do it while you play without thinking about it.
Nah...just close your eyes and go for it bro'....if you want pointers listen to Hendrix,early Cream era Clapton and Satriani is also quite good with one and uses it in a different sort of way on halfway or a slow sweep to make his solos stand out ..... |
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jackderringer
Silver Member
USA
153 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 18:44:51
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bass chorus. can't find an appropriate place in my music to use it.
also, bass overdrive. it's appropriate pretty much everywhere in my stuff but i just can't find an overdrive that does the sound i want. it makes me just crazy!!!  |
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Radioheading
Silver Member
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 20:00:08
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 21:03:36
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Originally posted by jackderringer
bass chorus. can't find an appropriate place in my music to use it.
also, bass overdrive. it's appropriate pretty much everywhere in my stuff but i just can't find an overdrive that does the sound i want. it makes me just crazy!!!
I'm using chorus all the time again these days, I seem to be going through an 80's phase lately I just can't switch off the CE-2b I have for bass and the CE-3 for guitar. Listening to too much Mr. Big again didn't help either. 
Using distortion on a bass however is a whole different matter.
And also a lot different then using it with guitar.
Most pedals eat too much low end to be usefull in a band situation.
So the only way to solve that problem is to blend the distortion sound with the clean sound, so the bottom end is retained.
The ODB-3 does this quite well, but you have to be careful with the treble knob as it can be a real "bees in a jar" pedal, not as bad as the MT-2 but still.
Voodoo labs make a cool pedal called the Sparkle Drive which let you blend in the clean signal with the distortion.
Or you could get something like an blend box and use that with your distortion pedal.
I also really love my Ampeg Billy Sheehan preamp, which has 2 blendable channels. |
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jackderringer
Silver Member
USA
153 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2010 : 00:06:58
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yeah i own the odb-3 and i want to love it but it's just too noisy and i can't find what i'm looking for with it. always feels like the distortion isn't a part of the bass sound, like it's just something thrown on top of it or something. i don't know if what i just said really makes sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FvM9SucoAs the intro to this song (and this record in general) is a really good example of the bass sound i'm trying to nail. at least as far as overdrive is concerned. i know i saw him using an odb-3 live once (or some other yellow boss box!) but i can't seem to pull that od out of mine.
thanks for the insight, dirk! i'll look into the sparkle drive |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2010 : 03:57:28
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member
USA
881 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2010 : 04:07:27
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Analog delay.
The crisp repeats of a DD just works so much better for me. |
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Radioheading
Silver Member
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2010 : 05:50:38
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Originally posted by Right Foot Boss
Analog delay.
The crisp repeats of a DD just works so much better for me.
Heathen!  |
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member
USA
881 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2010 : 06:12:37
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Heathen!
I also don't mind COSM. |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2010 : 10:58:05
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Originally posted by jackderringer
always feels like the distortion isn't a part of the bass sound, like it's just something thrown on top of it or something. i don't know if what i just said really makes sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FvM9SucoAs
That makes sense, that's because you blend both tones, ending up hearing both tones. But that really is the only sensible way.
Distortion sound great when playing on your own, but when the band kicks in all of it gets eaten by guitars and loud cymbals.
The distortion in the youtube movie sounds like a low gain overdrive, something like a tube screamer or a BD-2, great sound btw. |
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