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Vim Fuego
Gold Member

Denmark
566 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2009 :  10:19:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all

Got myself a DS-1 SS with the early 052-286C PCB .. wuhuu

Unfortunatly it doesn't work .. not so much wuhuu

No sound, no light - but I can feel the battery getting warm so I suspect some kind of shortage ??

Any suggestions on how to go about checking it out?

Cheers

Edited by - Vim Fuego on 09/13/2009 14:13:53

Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2009 :  14:32:24  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Warm battery almost certainly means a short circuit somewhere...

Measure across D1 and you will probably find a short circuit.

Assuming you did find a short circuit, there are really only a few things that can be causing it - D1 is dead (my money is on this), C23 is dead, the IC is dead, or there is a mechanical short somewhere (solder dag, wires shorting, etc).

If it was on my bench I'd do the following initial steps:
1) Close visual inspection of all wiring and all tracks on the board.
2) Remove D1 and see if the fault goes away (likely).
3) Remove C23 and see if the fault goes away.
4) Remove the IC and see if the short remains.

Let us know...
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2009 :  16:29:30  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Vim Fuego

Like Laurie;
Sounds like it was belted with a reversed polarity power pack.
(and possibly rev. & over volts).

I'll put my money on D1 being shorted.

If D1 went-is open circuit,
Then it would have allowed the rev. voltage to get to the Op-Amp & Capacitor.
Then I'll place my money on the Op-Amp IC

Remember:
Dr. Bob's Theorem Number 2506.
Op-Amps HATE Reversed VOLTAGES...
http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4599

BTW - depending on how long you had the battery connected to the shorted pedal,
It's probably best to consider it flat.
Or at least test it before doing a gig with in in some pedal.


Good Luck
Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 09/10/2009 16:49:09
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Vim Fuego
Gold Member

Denmark
566 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2009 :  20:22:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the info guys..

Being a total n00b with electronics its allways great to find help here on Bossarea!

I'll get working on the pedal this weekend and let you know.

Cheers

Edited by - Vim Fuego on 09/11/2009 20:24:51
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Vim Fuego
Gold Member

Denmark
566 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2009 :  14:13:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Changed D1 - and now its working perfectly..

Thanks alot guys for your help Have one on me

I guess my 20$ DS-1, SS, serial 8800, clear switch, momentary LED, 052-286C PCB wasn't a bad deal after all

Cheers
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2009 :  14:57:59  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vim Fuego



Changed D1 - and now its working perfectly..

Thanks alot guys for your help Have one on me

I guess my 20$ DS-1, SS, serial 8800, clear switch, momentary LED, 052-286C PCB wasn't a bad deal after all

Cheers


Hi Vim Fuego
With all those great qualifications, I hope you upload some pics?

Regards Dr. Bob
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Mesjoggah
Gold Member

Netherlands
595 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2009 :  15:31:45  Show Profile  Click to see Mesjoggah's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's always a great thing to bring a dead pedal to life again, congrats on that!
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2009 :  15:41:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very nice! 8800 is late (albeit only a month or so) for both those early features (switch and LED) to still be on the pedal. An SS DS-1 still eludes me...
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2009 :  16:09:17  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by verivorax
An SS DS-1 still eludes me...

Me too for some reason... just can't seem to find one.

COngrats on the repair!
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Vim Fuego
Gold Member

Denmark
566 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2009 :  19:54:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pics as requested:












Edited by - Vim Fuego on 09/13/2009 19:56:51
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DasBeef
Gold Member

United Kingdom
704 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2009 :  21:13:17  Show Profile  Visit DasBeef's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Congratulations my man! Enjoy that bad boy!
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2009 :  23:03:34  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Raised from the dead.. most excellent!
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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2009 :  15:09:04  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
a brother to my #9200
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2009 :  15:37:22  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Vim Fuego

Nice pictures, thanks for uploading them.
What a bargain - and you can really say "I Fixed It".

I guess she sounds pretty sweet?
Regards Dr. Bob
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Vim Fuego
Gold Member

Denmark
566 Posts

Posted - 09/15/2009 :  19:46:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I should be honest and say that Laurie and Dr. Bob fixed it !

And yes - it sounds amazing - very transparent the pots could do with a bit of cleaning but that I can take care of myself

Cheers
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