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zentropa
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Posted - 05/24/2009 :  00:09:17  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
there's the blues deville and hot rod deville.

the blues deville is way better than the hot rod. imo, hot rods need speaker replacements to sound good (usually something along the lines of jensens or something similar, e.g. whatever eminence i convinced laurie put into his vibro king reissue).

the deville isn't really super duper clean, which can be both a good and bad thing, and honestly, for the money, the peavey classics (the tweed or dark blue ones) are only marginally worse than the devilles but for about 40% cheaper.

if you are looking to buy a deville, they will run $400-600 used, and with that much money on the line there's lots of better value amps in that range. if you want super clean tone, you can probably find a mid 70's twin reverb for the same price and likely find a musicman for the lower end of that spectrum.
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zerksies
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Posted - 05/24/2009 :  00:15:33  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
BLAH BLAH BLAH to much talk about people opinions. you gonna just have to go to the store and try out a bunch of amps or try other peoples gear out. but as i always say just save your money cause the amp that you are looking for is more expensive then you think.Me i prefer the fender twin reverb it does me well but might now do to well for you.Plus now you got youtube and can hear many different people play it with different configurations. So good luck man
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DeFrag
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Posted - 05/24/2009 :  02:55:05  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The HotRods come with a linear pot for volume that (of course) doesn't sound right.

Check the Unofficial Hot Rod Guide for this & other info/mods:
http://studentweb.eku.edu/justin_holton/
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zentropa
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Posted - 05/24/2009 :  11:28:51  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
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BLAH BLAH BLAH to much talk about people opinions. you gonna just have to go to the store and try out a bunch of amps or try other peoples gear out. but as i always say just save your money cause the amp that you are looking for is more expensive then you think.Me i prefer the fender twin reverb it does me well but might now do to well for you.Plus now you got youtube and can hear many different people play it with different configurations. So good luck man


heh. unless you live in a musical mecca, or even better, a large city where bands go to die (e.g. minneapolis) it can be a big pain in the azz to try a variety of amps. youtube definitely helps, but it often takes a ton of digging as finding someone with a decent camera/mic is about as easy to come by as someone demoing a high gain amp and not playing numetal.

from my experiences giving recommendations, about 90% of the time people have a tone in mind they would like to achieve that is usually pretty focused on a particular style of music (and or particular guitarist's sound). in those cases it's not too much of a stretch to pick out some good starting points to work for. e.g. if someone wants sparkling cleans, a single channel marshall probably isn't the answer. if someone wants 80's metal tone, it's pretty safe to say that a jcm800 or one of it's clones (laney, sovtek, red bear, etc.) will be a safe bet (and far superior to the later 80's ADA MP-1 through a peavey classic stereo 50 rack tube amp tone).

the biggest advice i give is not to buy anything new and never to overpay. all of the new tube amps generally cost 2-4x as much as used ones and in most cases, the newer amp sounds worse than the older one. e.g. $2000 marshall JVM vs. $1000 JCM800 vs. $800 JCM2000 vs. $500 JCM900/600, etc.

most amps that have any popularity also have a bunch of clones. the fender hot rods are fairly well mimicked by a peavey classic or crate vintage club at 40-50% of the cost. a peavey ranger or musicman HD/RD is a poor man's twin.

when i give recommendations i generally try to rattle off a lot of under the radar gear that is undervalued for what it can do. e.g. a gibson the paul II from the late 1990's runs ~$450-550 and is basically a les paul studio that is even more stripped down cosmetically (no pickguard, dot inlays, no inlay on the headstock, and a different finish) but is the same wood/electronics as the les paul standards were of that era and both are from the "good" mahogany era before they switched over in 2001.

my philosophy has always been: if you spend half as much, you can buy twice as much.
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