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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
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 Posted - 10/24/2005 : 09:31:59
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When I was in my music store a couple of days ago the Manager (he�s been in the business long) told me that Boss was going to build their pedals in China. I asked him if he was sure of course and he said Yes...
Has anybody else heard about this???
I don�t belive it anyway, but he could be right... |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 10:08:44
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China already claims that Taiwan is part of China... but that's probably not what he meant.
It wouldn't surpise me if it's true. An awful lot of factories are already building their stuff in China so if it is cheaper then Roland is probably considering this too. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 10:39:12
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| I�ve e-mailet Linda at Roland Scandinavia, I�ll report her answer as soon as I get it. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 12:22:26
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Have got an answer from Roland Scandinavia: Some Boss products are at the moment manufactured in mainland China, but for the moment all compact pedals are manufactured in Taiwan. But we can be pretty sure that this would change sooner or later.
But Made in China doesn�t automaticly mean bad quality, I�ve tested some Chinese Squiers (very cheap) that are suprisingly good. |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 12:49:28
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| Boss used to make a big thing out of showing how the whole process was manual. Every single component was hand soldered in place and every box was hand sprayed. The last pedals I've opened up are not hand soldered anymore so I guess much of the process has already been automated. The location of the machine probably doesn't have any correlation with quality (I hope). |
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 15:33:51
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All of this in future may have an affect on the collectibalitly of the compact pedals: Japan: High price, Taiwan: Still fairly high, China: Reasonable price.
Quality?: Probably still fairly good.
Funny to realise that Boss pedals started out as the staple equipment of working musicians, it still may be the case but the older pedals give us a different picture with their soaring high prices.
Does anyone believe age has to do with the appeal of the Boss pedals?From what it seems, most of the regular posters around here are not really teenagers, most of us seem to have grown up with Bosspedals and therefore have aquired a taste for them.
I teach guitar as a living and some of my pupils do use Bosspedals, you know the current ones, there may be a DS-2 or an OS-2 somewhere in their arsenal. However the host of my pupils have the amps with all the bells and whistles, and when I mention sinlge compact pedals they point to their amp saying: "Heh look I do have all those sounds in there".
Point is: the younger generation do grow up with the modeling-amps and their sounds, they listen to music which was produced by modeling-amps [or heavily tweaked and processed by Pro Tools.....] and they are not really aware of the older sounds. Not really saying the older sounds are better, but they are different, and that may be one of the reasons why we like the Bosspedals so much, and their versatality of the whole range.................
So Boss going into China is no surprise, they need to keep up with the competion. I can also see them changing the focus of the compact pedals too: them becoming more like modeling-pedals, as that is what the younger generation is used to [read used to, not necessarily like, because when they hear the older sounds they dig them too.................try this with my pupils all the time, and they go like......."Whow, that is a great sound"] |
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Plush Pile
Bronze Member
Australia
93 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 19:56:20
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I think the reason teenagers aren't into boss pedals is price...
I myself am a teenager (19, so i'm almost done) and i would really love to jump into the deep end and purchase alot of pedals (discontinued or current model...) but even with my parents paying my rent and a portion of my groceries i still barely have enough money form working at k-mart to stick a tank of petrol into my car and then have a little bit left over so that i might buy an album every now and then or go out and have a few drinks with my mates.
I simply can't spare $250 for a new pedal, and not even $100 for a used one. The only pedal i have is an MT-2, which i didn't even pay for i won it in a competition, and for the next couple of years i don't see me getting anything else despite despertatly wanting a chorus, phaser, volume pedal, delay, tremollo and a whole heap of others, i simply can't justify blowing two weeks worth of petrol or three weeks food on a little box that i will no doubt enjoy but will survive without.
I'm not saying that boss prices are expensive, they are very well made products, just that it's a cost i can't justify until i have a lager, more steady, income... |
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arcanon1313
Silver Member
USA
414 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2005 : 01:36:57
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Try used music shops. They might have something your looking for at a reasonable price and you can still go out and have a drink with your mates. |
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2005 : 16:05:37
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Plush Pile, I can see your point, I have had some students of mine who made the same point, and it is true, Boss is not cheap, even the second hand ones still command a lot of money.
There is Beringher with the pedals which look so similar and probably share similar quality as the Boss ones. Then there is Nobels, now they are probably a very unknown brand, they do a whole range of pedals, and some of them are very good, just have a look for yourselve: http://www.nobels.com/en/index.htm
If you do not have a lot of money you need to be a little inventive with your pedals: When you have an EQ and and overdrive [or distortion] there are a lot of colours you can create with just these two boxes, you really do not need the whole range of Boss overdrive/distortion pedals which is out there. I have done a lot of A/B tests, and even tried to get one pedal to emulate the sound of another one with the help of EQ and Parametric EQ's, and really, you can get very far, so just be inventive........which is what the fun is all about anyway. |
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Plush Pile
Bronze Member
Australia
93 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2005 : 16:21:09
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| Yeah i've been looking into the Beringer pedals, i gotta find a shop where i can go try some out... The only place i can find them at the moment is eBay, but for $35-40 i might give up the album every now and then for a pedal if they're any good... |
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2005 : 16:46:33
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| Yep just give them a go and tell us what you have discovered during the process of trying and testing them out. |
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idoru
Copper Member
Australia
38 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2005 : 02:03:20
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Originally posted by Plush Pile
Yeah i've been looking into the Beringer pedals, i gotta find a shop where i can go try some out... The only place i can find them at the moment is eBay, but for $35-40 i might give up the album every now and then for a pedal if they're any good...
That's the thing: get used to music taking over your whole life, or you're not doing it right! I can't afford to go to the movies, I borrow CDs off friends and pretty much the only beer I drink is on our band's rider... and I still can't afford to get everything I want ;)
cheers,
chris/bass/idoru
http://www.idoru.com.au |
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arcanon1313
Silver Member
USA
414 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2005 : 03:06:12
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| I do have to admit that the Nobels line of pedals are very good for the money. I've tried out some of there pedals (The overdrive, delay , and tremelo) I really like the preamp/booster pedal. They are a little bit more pricey, but they are significantly less than boss pedals. |
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walrus121
Silver Member
USA
187 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2005 : 05:16:41
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Originally posted by Plush Pile
I think the reason teenagers aren't into boss pedals is price...
I myself am a teenager (19, so i'm almost done) and i would really love to jump into the deep end and purchase alot of pedals (discontinued or current model...) but even with my parents paying my rent and a portion of my groceries i still barely have enough money form working at k-mart to stick a tank of petrol into my car and then have a little bit left over so that i might buy an album every now and then or go out and have a few drinks with my mates.
Don't take this as preaching, just take it as advice from someone who is living on subsistence support from the government for disability ($579 US a month). My advice would be to consider how much money you spend on drinking. I'm not calling you an alcoholic, just asking you to put it in perspective with your budget. And if you smoke, definitely stop smoking. Individuals invest thousands of U.S. dollars every year into one or the other or both. Especially the smokers. Doesn't mean that you can't hang out with your mates. |
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walrus121
Silver Member
USA
187 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2005 : 05:18:09
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Originally posted by arcanon1313
Try used music shops. They might have something your looking for at a reasonable price and you can still go out and have a drink with your mates.
eBay is cheaper than buying anything used from a dealer in my experience. Selling stuff to a dealer is even worse of a deal. |
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walrus121
Silver Member
USA
187 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2005 : 05:20:09
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Originally posted by arcanon1313
I do have to admit that the Nobels line of pedals are very good for the money. I've tried out some of there pedals (The overdrive, delay , and tremelo) I really like the preamp/booster pedal. They are a little bit more pricey, but they are significantly less than boss pedals.
More pricey compared to what? |
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Boss made in China????
