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Erik dP
Silver Member
Sweden
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 Posted - 01/25/2007 : 14:13:53
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With nothing better to do I made some MP3:s with a comparison of the two fuzzboxes from BOSS I have: BD-2 and DS-1. It wasn't ment to end up here but someone might find it amusing...
...at least my guitar playing skills.
All files were recorded through the Line out of my VOX DA5 with only some delay and BOSS reverb added. (Very good amp through a 4*12 which gives more bottom end than the recordings.)
BD-2: Lev: 9 o'clock, Tone: 5 o'clock, Gain: 2 o'clock
DS-1: Tone: 12 o'clock, Lev: 12 o'clock, Dist: 7 o'clock.
All files have first: no Boss,
then: Boss BD-2,
and last: Boss DS-1.
Neck humbucker with guitar Vol at 5 (of ten) and Tone at 8:
http://www.rockstars.se/humbucklogain.MP3
Neck humbucker with guitar Vol at 8 (of ten) and Tone at 8:
http://www.rockstars.se/humbuckhigain.MP3
Singelcoil (actually a split humbucker) Vol at 8 and tone at 8:
http://www.rockstars.se/singelcoil.MP3
Yeah, I know other settings will make them differ more, but this is the way the files ended up this time as I wanted a similar crunchy gain from both.
My overall conclusion is that appart from the obvious higher gain other settings of DS-1 can deliver, the BD-2 seems to add a pass filter to the sound while the DS-1 doesn't affect the tone as much. It seems that the BD-2 has a (kind of) fixed wha setting inside. Due to this, in this test, the DS-1 sounded a bit warmer. |
Edited by - Erik dP on 01/25/2007 14:22:48 |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 14:44:45
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Hi Erik dP
Thanks for the effort you went to, to share your tone tests & comparison of your BD-2 & your DS-1
The Similarity in tone is scary, I will admit that I don't own a BD-2, I do have a couple of DS-1's.
Going buy you tests, I imagine that it would be really difficult, to actually hear any difference in a full band or a live situation.
I know I will probably get shot down in flames, for the above comment, but in all fairness guys, I don't have anything else to go by.
But if I see a BD-2 for a reasonable price, I'll still get one.
The BD-2 has such a positive fan base.
I recently bought an old DOD FX102 Mystic Blues Overdrive pedal,
In my humble opinion, for what it's worth, It's just one of the best
overdrives that I have ever heard-played.
To me, it's probably the "Tone" that I have been searching for.
The FX102 schematic, looks similar to a lot of Asymmetrical Clipping distortion & overdrive circuits, like the DS-1 or the Ibanez Tube Screamer.
But it sounds so very different.
Thanks again for all your effort Erik dP.
Can you please try your tests, in a full band situation, & report back your new findings, to all of us.
Regards Dr. Bob  |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 15:04:11
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Hi again Erik dP
I went & had a look at your site:
http://www.rockstars.se/
In the very last photo, at the bottom of the page, I see you are all
playing one of my very favorite songs: 
MenOnly
I can't believe that you managed to get the original sheet music for this song. (book on the music stand).
I have a few friends, that have that sheet music, but thay refuse to loan it to me. 
And you got the original printing of it,
Wow, it even has the lead singer on the front cover.
I imagine, that you & the boys in the band, spent many hours studying & working out this song.... 
Is that you Erik dP, on the left of the picture?
What guitar are you playing in that pic.
Regards Dr. Bob |
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Erik dP
Silver Member
Sweden
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 15:34:15
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...Yes, that's me to the left. That's just an 1989 PRS CE. I guess that the body is solid alder, just as Fenders. Nowadays they seem to be all made of mahogny. I used that guitar for these recordings.
I also notised that by adding a fixed position on a FT-2 (Boss auto wha) to the DS-1 I got a more BD-2 kind of sound than the actual BD-2 itself.
I do fancy the BD-2 better as it can deliver more light boost sounds, while the DS-1 needs some major backing off on the Vol on the guitar to achieve light crunch (as in the recordings).
I'm sorry that all the tracks on the "rockstars.se" are in Swedish, but at that time our "fame" was due to the lyrics and not due to the actual (non-)musical skills. One thing non-Swedish "fans" might enjoy is the nose-flute solo on the last track of the konsert. It is the "Smells like teen spirit"-solo as the whole song is a Nirvana ripoff with our own lyrics. We don't have that band anymore and I don't play in a band at the moment so a live test will not be possible. |
Edited by - Erik dP on 01/25/2007 15:47:16 |
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ronster
Gold Member
Australia
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Posted - 01/26/2007 : 14:02:35
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Hey nice work with your comparison tracks. I'm surprised how similar they sounded with those settings!
Dr Bob, I am a big fan of the BD-2 and I would normally have the lever about 12 or 1 o'clock and the tone back down closer to 12 and I find you get a much richer deeper sounding overdrive. Interesting that I didn't find these recordings of the Ds-1 as trebley as I have found the DS-1 in the past but then I see that distortion is at 7 o'clock and the tone at 12 also.
Erik dP, how do you find them when you are playing chords? I think they start to sound very different playing chords. The other thing is that the BD-2 needs a humbucker to really make it shine where I think the DS-1 can sound good on just about any guitar depending on how you want to sound 
I've also started playing around with a PW-2 lately and I've been getting some great sounds with that, especially playing chords and power chords!!!  |
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controlfreak
Silver Member
Ireland
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Posted - 01/26/2007 : 14:24:12
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hey man, nice work with the sound samples!!
i think it would be cool if someone could do sound samples of all the boss ODs/Dists/Fuzzes all at, say, 3 settings (low gain setting, knobs at 12oclock and high gain setting)
it would be a great way to match the sound you're lookin for to the pedal.
now who out there has all these pedals?!!!! |
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Erik dP
Silver Member
Sweden
150 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2007 : 15:29:50
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Hi guys. Glad you liked the tracks.
I made a new track with power chords with the low gain sound, i.e. 5 of 10 on the guitar Vol pot for comparison. (I.e. the same setting as my first previous track.)
We all know that more distortion can be achieved if needed so I think this low-gain setting is the most interesting setting.
First it is clean guitar, then BD-2, then DS-1, then BD-2+DS-1 (DS-1 closest to the guitar), then it is DS-1+FT-2 just for tonal changes:
http://www.rockstars.se/humbucklogainchords.MP3
I also have a pretty bad clean FT-2 track for comparison. My headphones fell off when I made it so I couldn't hear what I was playing. It starts off with clean guitar the first few seconds:
http://www.rockstars.se/FT2.MP3
(I have also posted some DD-2 High-cut mod tracks today in the "Tech"-section if you feel the need to hear more.)
By the way. I mentioned that my "Swedish" band doesn't exist any more, but our drummer has an active band with nice songs in English. He plays the guitar. They will perform at Hard Rock Caf� in Stockholm (on Sveav�gen) friday 2:nd of Februari after 22:00. I will be filming as always. They are called "De Trop". See you there...
www.detrop.net
www.myspace.com/detropsthlm |
Edited by - Erik dP on 01/26/2007 15:52:07 |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 01/26/2007 : 17:35:55
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I use my ds1 as my 'crunch' pedal with the distortion nearly all the way off and my od2 as a booster after it or push it with the cs3 in front for cleanish type solos with a bit of bite.....the poor ol' ds1 gets some bad press sometimes.......... |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 01/26/2007 : 17:38:33
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| sorry....i forgot to say,well done erik for taking the time to do some samples for everyone to hear.... have a pint of guinness on franzoni... |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 02/01/2007 : 18:37:12
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All files were recorded through the Line out of my VOX DA5
Uhh, I think that's why your BD-2 and DS-1 samples sound the same. |
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Erik dP
Silver Member
Sweden
150 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2007 : 19:09:56
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| ...They sounded very similar through the 4*12 too at these settings. Note that I did back down on the volume pot on the guitar a bit as well as the low gain setting on the DS-1. By doing so I got a very nice tone with the DS-1. Similar tone was then achieved with the same guitar setting on the BD-2. Note that the BD-2 has a higher than 12 o'clock setting on its gain. |
Edited by - Erik dP on 02/01/2007 19:14:56 |
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