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kelmaur
Gold Member

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  11:37:05  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I am coming up with nothing in trying to incorporate my LS-2 with my existing setup (trying to still use my PSM-5 like i always have before..that pedal is whats throwing me off while trying to hook up the LS-2)

posted twice about this with only one reply that didnt help me solve anything

i know there isa someon here that can help me solve my problem

i have had great help here in the past

i know its something that I am doing, but dont know what it is

what gives?


Edited by - kelmaur on 04/01/2009 11:39:22

the-destructor
Silver Member

USA
334 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  12:35:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Clue me in on what's going on. I'm not familiar with your scenario. I'm currently using (2) LS-2's in my home setup. Both being used in different ways (one as an A/B & one as a looper). I'd like to help if I can.

T-D
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  12:57:10  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi kelmaur

Perhaps if you made a little sketch of what you're trying to achieve,
it might clear things up for all of us.

Sometimes it's difficult to describe in words, what your trying to do.

The old adage, of a picture is worth a thousand words, probably applies in this case.

The/some members here have some incredible pedal board setups, ones that even I'm jealous of,
I don't doubt that they will be willing to help you out.

Plus I see that ZEN (Zentropa) is now back.
The guy has calibrated ears, that rival my Tektronics oscilloscope, & HP distortion Analyzers.

Regards Dr. Bob
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kelmaur
Gold Member

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  13:01:18  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
OK...i appreciate it..hope you can

i have been up all damn night trying to get this to work, took my pedal board apart fifteen times (not exaggerating)

my setup was like this ( when i was playing yesterday)

Nady wireless into
PSM-5 (guitar input)>
PSM-5 (SEND)>
NS-2>
TU-2>
MT-2>
HM-2>
DS-1>
GE-7>
CH-1>
DD-7>
GE-7>
DD-7>
PSM-5 (AMP output)>
DS-1>
ROcktek Flanger>
Recording interface

im trying to figure out how i can still use my wireless plugged into the PSM-5 the same way i have it and still utilize the LS-2 somewhere for a second loop

ive tried everything i have looked at the paperwork (LS-2)all night and have come up with weird noises (buzzing- bad signal,no signal)

i know the LS-2 works i bought it second hand , but it is brand new the guy just bought it an decided to get rid of it

i am using two One Spots ( those damn extra connectors osmetimes throw me off too..which ones do you use to adapt to the adapter itself

i bought a brand new CS-3 and an SD-2 today and had them hooked up right after i got home with them and got a way different sound than what i had before....fuzzy adn not clear like i had before

i was playing the pother night with my basic chain above with my delay and had a sound and as soon a si hoooked up the Cs-3 and SD-1 in the chain everything was muddier

maybe i didnt tweak it right

how do you set a CS-3 to not feedback and not be muddy

anyway thats about it

ask anything..i may have for gotten something

nay help woul dbe grewatly appreciated

i need to get back to my music
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kelmaur
Gold Member

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  13:47:33  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=dzvxt5yyt1y&thumb=4

OK..so this is how it was before i got the LS-2, CS-3 and the SD-1

i was told buy another member here to put the CS-3 after the GE-7 after the dist's and the SD-1 right before the dist's

i did that then tried to hook the LS-2 up somewhere so i could have 2 loops..1 the basic loop with the three dist's chorus and delay

another loop form the amp output of the PSM-5 like in the pic with the AC-2 and flanger..i have another DS-1 i want to put on this loop with the flanger

can i still use the PSM-5 with my wireless plugged in to it like i have had it and use the LS-2 also

i dont know where else to plug my Nady in at

Edited by - kelmaur on 04/01/2009 13:49:04
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  14:51:17  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Personally i would put the CS-3 at front end before the PSM-5... pull the sustain level down below halfway and boost the output level to compensate,i normally set the tone over halfway to give a little 'bite' to the sound,sort of like early knopfler/orange squeezer tone.... i know of no reason why the LS-2 can't be dropped in the middle of your chain as a second looper pedal..thats the way i have mine after the overdrive unit looping my mod/delay pedals..... are you sure that with the extra pedals added that one of your extra patch cables might be a bogey...? could be the cause of tone loss/muddy sound....or possibly something to do with the one spot power supply.....

i would go....
Nady wireless... to input of ....

CS-3 output to input of ....

PSM-5 + whatever pedals you want in that pedals loop..

AMP OUT on PSM-5 to INPUT of LS-2 and second loop of pedals you want in loop A (you could also have a 3rd loop in loop B of the LS-2 if you wanted)

LS-2 OUTPUT to whatever source you want amp/recording device,another pedal etc.....

hope this helps..............

Edited by - FRANZONI on 04/01/2009 14:56:24
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kelmaur
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USA
505 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  15:27:12  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i was getting like low voltage sounds at one point too

ever had that?
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kelmaur
Gold Member

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  15:58:33  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

Personally i would put the CS-3 at front end before the PSM-5... pull the sustain level down below halfway and boost the output level to compensate,i normally set the tone over halfway to give a little 'bite' to the sound,sort of like early knopfler/orange squeezer tone.... i know of no reason why the LS-2 can't be dropped in the middle of your chain as a second looper pedal..thats the way i have mine after the overdrive unit looping my mod/delay pedals..... are you sure that with the extra pedals added that one of your extra patch cables might be a bogey...? could be the cause of tone loss/muddy sound....or possibly something to do with the one spot power supply.....

i would go....
Nady wireless... to input of ....

CS-3 output to input of ....

PSM-5 + whatever pedals you want in that pedals loop..

AMP OUT on PSM-5 to INPUT of LS-2 and second loop of pedals you want in loop A (you could also have a 3rd loop in loop B of the LS-2 if you wanted)

LS-2 OUTPUT to whatever source you want amp/recording device,another pedal etc.....

hope this helps..............



im going to try anything and everything you suggest..but just out of curiosity......would this work

Wireless>
TU-2>
LS-2 A>
#1 group of pedals>
LS-2 A return>
LS-2 B send>
#2 group of pedals>
LS-2 B return

and as for what you mentioned

can i go into my TU-2 before what you suggested

and would the TU-2 still be where i can have it muted for tuning
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2009 :  02:44:26  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
that set up would work perfect
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
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Posted - 04/02/2009 :  11:33:13  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
should be fine.... looks like your getting rid of the PSM-5 out of the chain.....?......
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
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Posted - 04/02/2009 :  11:45:27  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kelmaur

i was getting like low voltage sounds at one point too

ever had that?



best people to talk you through power supplies around here is either Dr Bob or Laurie....check out the FAQ's there is a big topic on this and mixing the older ACA type pedals with PSA ones.....
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kelmaur
Gold Member

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2009 :  19:08:09  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
well,i just hooked it back up like it was when it was working last..i had to get back to my recording

wireless>
PSM-5 GUITAR>
PSM-5 SEND>
NS-2>
TU-2>
CS-3>
MT-2>
HM-2>
DS-1>
GE-7>
CH-1>
DD-7 A>
PSM-5
DD-7 B>
GE-7>
DD-7 B>

i still have other pedals i want to include n this setup, bu ti have spent too long tryin gto get them on there and not getting any signal sometimes with the LS-2

im not usually the type to give up but damn...Why isnt this LS-2 cooperating?

i know its me not getting something right, but cant figure out what it is

Edited by - kelmaur on 04/02/2009 19:10:47
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kelmaur
Gold Member

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2009 :  19:13:41  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i was told at guitar center that it might be that i have too many pedals and not enough power

im using and have two one Steps with 15 pedals

i havent counted up the ma's of each pedal and added them together to see what i come up with

what are these one stops capacity?
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
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Posted - 04/02/2009 :  19:23:31  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
should be written on it somewhere .....
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
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Posted - 04/03/2009 :  00:07:14  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
the ls-2 is an updated version of the psm-5 with alot more options then the psm-5 . i think the modern version is alot better then the vintage version. for once i would say go modern
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kelmaur
Gold Member

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2009 :  00:57:16  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
if i use the LS-2 first and in place of the PSM-5, where would i plug my guitar into the LS-2 in order for it to receive the signal from both loops when i switch back and forth

put guitar in the input (then out to what?), then whatever pedals in loops in A and B

wouldnt my TU-2 have to be before the LS-2?

Edited by - kelmaur on 04/03/2009 00:58:10
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