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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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 Posted - 11/28/2008 : 22:54:16
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Another tale of woe from the Franz...... three of the pots on the front of the marshall head were kicked off by our drummer climbing round in the back of the van pissed last weekend,it only came to light this evening when we were rehearsing...... these sort of drunken antics is what put us off the road before...don't get me wrong i'm all for having a beer...AFTER THE GIG.....not before your even collected to go... it's also starting to affect the quality of the music and now it's the marshall up on the bench to be fixed....of course the singer blamed him and vice versa but now i'm up against the clock for tomorrow evening to get the replacement pots and fix the amp..lucky enough those old marshalls don't have the pots connected straight to the PCB...imagine the carnage on a newer amp...... |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2008 : 23:19:33
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| been there to many time but usually it was me |
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FunkenGrooven
Silver Member
USA
360 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2008 : 23:38:13
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I'm with you Franz if you can't just have a couple to loosen up then you should wait till after the gig that kind of crap on a recurring basis is just unacceptable |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2008 : 23:52:51
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I'd have to shove a guitar up 'is ass.
No respect for gear... or other's gear.
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Edited by - DeFrag on 11/28/2008 23:53:07 |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2008 : 00:45:20
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This is going to be a bit of a rant..... .i don't think it was intentional but the fact remains that it's becoming an ongoing problem after gigs...we take turns in driving the van and last weekend we had 3 gigs and he was off and he doesn't remember going home any night..he's been going through a rough patch and we were making allowances cause we thought it would die down after a few weeks but if anything it seems to be starting to become an ongoing thing...i'm starting to get pissed off that my gear is getting trashed by drunks...first the pedalboard,now the amp....i don't mind a genuine accident but if my strat got damaged in any way,i reckon that would be it for me.....this is starting to take my enjoyment out of going rehearsing and playing gigs and any attempt by the singer or myself to ask him to take it easy is laughed off,the bass player is sitting on the fence on this as he's not far behind.... what is it with musos that they sabotage their lifeblood..i.e. gigs... by drink and drugs...i'm no angel and am the first to the bar when the gear is in the van when the gig is over and were out most weekends 2 to 3 gigs sometimes even 4 if we swing one on the thursday so it's a decent few bob for these guys and the bass player has no job....... rant over..... .... |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2008 : 01:56:46
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| No Comment, other than I sorry for you & your gear Franz... |
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 11/29/2008 : 05:20:36
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You're having some poor luck.. contrary to the idiom! It's too bad that your drummer is taking that path.. It's also a problem in the food industry - tons of chefs end up raging alcoholics. It's crazy how some people perform BETTER under those circumstances - I knew a guy who needed 2 joints before hitting the stage to sing. I know an alcoholic bassist who's incredible (on bass and keys) in any condition. Some people just get off their gourd (me, and that's why I don't drink to excess [much]). Musicians sometimes feel they have no real responsibility to anyone, and therefore, can phone it in when they like.. coupled with the job often taking place in a pub/bar/boozehaven.
On a drunken drummer sidenote.. about 10 years ago, the singer/guitarist from a local punk band was hammered and hanging out @ my band's jamspace.. he was also a drummer, and such a heavy hitter on my drummer's kit that he split the kickdrum skin. We were young and had no money, so it became a big deal. Anyway, "PABLO BROKE THE BASS DRUM" became a lyric in one of our songs, and a fan favourite. I do think he paid for the new head eventually, and we determined that it HAD been pre-weakened by many kilometres of double-kicks.. fun story nonetheless.  |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 11/29/2008 : 05:33:56
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Hey Franzoni... feel free to rant. We get it. (we wish we didn't)
One way or another, this will all pass. |
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sp-1
Platinum Member
Germany
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Posted - 11/29/2008 : 10:54:56
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You're a very patient man FRANZONI, I've kicked people out of bands and quit bands myself for lesser stuff.
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member
USA
881 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2008 : 07:22:57
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I too have a drummer who can at times become belligerent and break things, actually he has a habit of it. Fortunately none of those things have been musical equipment (besides his own) thus far. But boy can he pound out the drums. Too bad he has to get so crazy when he's drunk.
Anyway, breaking others' equipment is a serious line to cross. I think a lot of us share in your situation, and appreciate the rant. God knows I could start a whole thread about the things of mine that have been broken or destroyed by a drunk bandmate. For example my car.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2008 : 07:58:45
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Hi Franzoni
Any good news updates on your amp?
Regards Dr. Bob |
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sp-1
Platinum Member
Germany
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Posted - 11/30/2008 : 10:51:22
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Originally posted by Right Foot Boss
I too have a drummer who can at times become belligerent and break things, actually he has a habit of it. Fortunately none of those things have been musical equipment (besides his own) thus far. But boy can he pound out the drums. Too bad he has to get so crazy when he's drunk.
Anyway, breaking others' equipment is a serious line to cross. I think a lot of us share in your situation, and appreciate the rant. God knows I could start a whole thread about the things of mine that have been broken or destroyed by a drunk bandmate. For example my car.
Well........ ????!!!!
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2008 : 10:52:22
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Originally posted by Right Foot Boss
I too have a drummer who can at times become belligerent and break things, actually he has a habit of it. Fortunately none of those things have been musical equipment (besides his own) thus far. But boy can he pound out the drums. Too bad he has to get so crazy when he's drunk.
Anyway, breaking others' equipment is a serious line to cross. I think a lot of us share in your situation, and appreciate the rant. God knows I could start a whole thread about the things of mine that have been broken or destroyed by a drunk bandmate. For example my car.
 ..... i think i got off lightly so with a couple of pots in the marshall......thats bad bro',my car is my job(i drive a taxi when i'm not gigging) so this would be for me a serious line to cross....
Dr Bob..... some good news,i sourced the parts from a couple of places in germany (tube town and T.A.D.)so i will probably go to one or the other as they are cheaper and have the original marshall stuff also have the capacitors i've been looking for,for the Musicman..... i posted in another topic about the Musicman... i found a loose wire off the power tranny going to a small PCB it was hard to spot as it was wrapped and cable tied with the rest of the taps out off the tranny and a few are the same colour... i found a high res pic on the musicman website of the inside of another HD130 so i think i can figure out where it goes....i used my '61 Selmer last night,it struggled a bit even miked as it was a big hall but i got through the gig....not bad for a little 14 watt amp thats 47 years old..........
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Originally posted by verivorax
You're having some poor luck.. contrary to the idiom! It's too bad that your drummer is taking that path.. It's also a problem in the food industry - tons of chefs end up raging alcoholics.
It's funny you should mention chefs as our drummer shares a house with one......and this guy only recently moved in...maybe a coincedence but probably not helping as i think he was going down this road anyway due to a few personal problems but my main issue is it's starting to affect our band and put me off going out to gigs...i'm like a bear with a sore head a few hours beforehand where normally i would be up for it and looking forward to letting rip..... |
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member
USA
881 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2008 : 11:19:20
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You scored the parts and can bring your amp back to life and that is what matters. Congrats on bringing a 47 year old amp that is 21 years older than I am back to life for a special crowd.
I've got a musicman 2 12' amp going around my local craigslist for under three hundred. Hope it gets a little lower. Back off you don't know where I live! Yet!  |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2008 : 14:47:32
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I am assuming that at least your drummer has his own equipment. The drummer that has been playing with me, another guitarist, and a bassist, currently does not have his own drumset, so he uses the set that the other guitarist owns. This other guitarist has in the past been nice enough to let this guy borrow the drumset, but not any more. The drummer shows up an hour late to our most recent practice...and the cymbal is inside out...He says he accidentally stepped on it, but not to worry cause it sounds like a splash(?)...if anything, it sounded like a cheap China Boy cymbal...Then there are these dents around the edge from where he says he dropped it down a flight of stairs accidentally while trying to fix the cymbal...WTF? We know this drummer has a bit of a problem with alcohol at times, but this incident also contributes to out ongoing speculation that this guy is addicted to crack or some type of speed, crank, ice, or whatever...
I must ask, is your drummer willing to pay for or assist for any repairs? Just wondering, because this guy has been told he owes the other guitarist $90 for the cymbal, and he just sort of laughs cause he apparently thinks we are kidding about how if he doesn't pay up, his arse is out of the band.... |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2008 : 17:27:17
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Found out at last nights gig that one of our regular sunday gigs was cancelled(tonights one) because he told the bar manager a couple of weeks back to "go f**k himself" because he asked him to move his gear out to the van....
Right Foot Boss.... grab that amp if you can bro'...for a clean sound base for using a range of pedals it is realy a good alround amp,very well made and easy to repair especially if you live in the states where parts and and techs seem to be in plentiful supply....
Jack.... yes his drums are his own but since he doesn't look after his gear he is 'borrowing' off a kit we use in our rehearshal studio belonging to the singer at the moment he is using the floor tom as the legs fell of his one and some cymbals as well as he cracked some of his own 'el crapo' ones....we normally set some money aside out of the gigs to fix and buy new gear and our next purchase is a new van,but at the moment i'm apprehensive of sinking any more money into the band as already i have put in well over a two grand in the last few years..the rig is owned by me and the singer...we normally pay our own way on our personal gear..the drummer in your band is extremely direspectful to treat a lend of equipment that he doesn't own like that.......i look at us a semi-pro outfit but the mentality of a couple of indivuals doesn't reflect this,i'm unwilling to move on as i have put a lot of hard work in along with the singer to get this to where it is.... i know plenty of good drummers and bass players who would be glad of a gig as it's getting tight out there at the moment..... and he even told me to 'take a few weeks out and chill' last night after the gig...the only positive thing was the bass player came off the fence and pulled him up on his timekeeping on slower numbers..... the singer has a serious problem with him standing around talking and not wrapping his gear.....i left his drums in the middle of the pub a few gigs ago and put the rest of the gear away and was going to drive off in the van only the other two stopped me....
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