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arcanon1313
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  02:49:08  Show Profile  Click to see arcanon1313's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I tried out an ML-2 today, and I brought my HM-3 along to try out a theory. I set up both pedals the same, and switched between the two to see if there was any difference in sound. They both sounded the same. I tried numerous settings and they still sounded alike. So my theory is that Boss decided to reissue the HM-3 but reissued it with a different name. Has anyone else tried this? Can anyone agree with this theory?

jack
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  03:31:09  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It wouldn't surprise me since Boss is not reissuing any pedals, they would have to change the name. I haven't had a chance to compare though. I was thinking the ML-2 was the Boss version of a Keeley modded MT-2 though, but it wouldn't surprise me though....
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mattoqua
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Canada
438 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2007 :  06:47:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmm thats wierd. I dont have either, so i cant try it out, but I doubt they would do a re-issue, even with a different name, however, they probably do sound similar, since they did so many distortions, theres no where else to go really.
(and they have the exact same controls too )

Did you open it up and look if the components were similar?
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  07:17:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have both and I don´t think they sound exactly the same, there is much more bottom end in ML-2. I also like the overall sound of ML-2 a lot more.
I have opened both of them up (on different occasions) and they surely look very different, but as you know ML-2 has surface mounted components, and some of them are really small. So it could be difficult for me to see how close they are as HM-3 is wired the “traditional” way with bigger components.
Some time ago ML-2 was in a topic and, if I don´t remember wrong, someone said it was a COSM technology pedal. I´m not sure of this.


Edited by - Goran on 08/13/2007 07:24:33
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mattoqua
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Canada
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  07:43:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i dont think its cosm, since they seem to put COSM on everything that uses it, and I dont see what it would be modeling (unless the HM-3 :P). Even FZ-5 has cosm printed on it, even though its a compact, so i think they would do the same on this one
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  13:41:59  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I believe the ML-2 is cosm but it doesn't model any known amp or effect. The reason I think it is cosm is because the electornics are practically identical to the DN-2, FZ-5, FBR and FBM. When you open them up you can't see any differences and some of them are using the same PCBs.

Could they have modelled the HM-3 in the ML-2? To my ears they don't sound similar enough. More bottom end, as Goran said and I think there's more distortion too.
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strat714
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  18:54:39  Show Profile  Visit strat714's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree with Goran (and bossarea). The HM-3 sounds shrill compared to the ML-2 and the ML-2 has more bottom end and also more output. Way different components inside too.
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StratoSphere
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Canada
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Posted - 08/14/2007 :  01:07:46  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
for the sake of the ML-2s future, i hope it doesnt sound like the HM-3.
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