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lost_in_sound
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/29/2006 :  15:45:52  Show Profile  Visit lost_in_sound's Homepage  Send lost_in_sound an AOL message  Reply with Quote
think foo fighters, pearl jam. i hate the bluesy, blunt, middly overdrive you get, so not that. i want a more crisp, sharp overdrive, i'm pretty certain it's the SD-1 rather than the OD-3 im looking for, but any suggestions?

tomwest
Silver Member

United Kingdom
436 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2006 :  17:25:24  Show Profile  Visit tomwest's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I know I bang on about it a lot, but when I play Pearl Jam I use my HM-2. It's warm enough, but also got enough gain for any hard rock application. I too hate bluesy overdrive, and this is nothing like it.
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Dingus
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USA
472 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2006 :  17:43:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suggest playing the SD-1 before you buy it. It was a big disappointment to me when I first got it. It's a way better pedal to use in combination with other pedals or to boost others than to use it by itself. On the other hand I couldnt be more happy with an OD-3. Pearl Jam uses an Ibanez SD-9 and I think one of them has an SM-9. The SD-9 would be much more like an SD-1 or OD-3, and the SM-9 is more like an HM-2, or MT-2 (but not really). Foo Fighters use a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier for their distorted sounds, for which I would recommend an MT-2.

Figuring out which one Overdrive/Dist to get is a hard choice, and I think most of us end up getting many different ones. I know I have a plethora of dirt boxes. In your case if you are getting more than one I'd suggest trying them first if you can, but if not I'd get a used MT-2 (which can usually be had for $50) and a used OD-3 (if you can find one used). I just find that the SD-1 is too weak for lots of people.
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lost_in_sound
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United Kingdom
150 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2006 :  21:51:18  Show Profile  Visit lost_in_sound's Homepage  Send lost_in_sound an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i already have an MT-2 :) when my band record, i put an MT-2 in the left ear and the OS-2's overdrive currently in the right, which i dont like that much

i use my OS-2 as an overdrive/tone controller for my bass now, and i really want to treat myself. so out of them two the SD-1 looks to be the one to go for?

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Big Boss Man
Gold Member

USA
564 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2006 :  18:57:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What kind of amp are you using? SD-1 works great in front of a big tube amp like a Marshall. Not quite as good in front of a smaller or cleaner sounding amp. If you do have a small or clean sounding amp, maybe try one of the modded SD-1s. I use a Keeley modded SD-1 as my main OD in front of a Carr Slant 6V. The Carr is similar to a Deluxe Reverb with more gain on tap in the second channel. The Keeley SD-1 has a much wider range of gain settings than the stock model.
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lost_in_sound
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United Kingdom
150 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2006 :  21:23:31  Show Profile  Visit lost_in_sound's Homepage  Send lost_in_sound an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i use a 100W marshall, but at home i use a small one so for the big mashall i suppose SD-1 was the best

so i purchased a brand spanking new SD-1 for �35 earlier today, my first theree knobber

Edited by - lost_in_sound on 12/30/2006 21:24:10
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StratoSphere
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Canada
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Posted - 12/30/2006 :  23:36:06  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i say all you ever need is the SD-2. it can do it all.. most Boss OD's will get you a treblier harsher sounding OD(with the exception of SD-1 and OD-1 as they are a little too light)

even pedals like the BD-2 can get exact Pearl Jam/Foo Fighters tone. im doing it right now. i think the biggest problem is that people regard it as a "blues pedal" when its really just a versatile Overdrive.

tomwest has a good point too with the HM-2. i dont particularly see that as a "heavy metal" pedal really. just more like a DS-1 with built in EQ. i use HM-2 mostly for rock too ala EVH or just straight up distortion...

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lost_in_sound
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United Kingdom
150 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2006 :  13:03:36  Show Profile  Visit lost_in_sound's Homepage  Send lost_in_sound an AOL message  Reply with Quote
the HM-2 sounds really intriguing, actually, it really does look liek it should be a horrible pedal but it sounds like it's a really good pedal
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 01/02/2007 :  11:30:11  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
another thing to consider is to make sure the volume of the amp is turned up to a healthy gigging level and the same with the pedal when trying out overdrives...some of these pedals sound like crapola at low volumes...i also found out through trial and error that the simpler amps work best i.e old marshalls or ac30's etc or going into a clean channel on multi channel amps and using the pedals distortion...i know some guitarists push a distorting amp over the top with these pedals and thats fine as well.. i.e SRV,zakk wylde.. etc.. but their amps are already working hard in the power stage its not all pre amp distortion..SRV was well known for playing very loud and having his amps running flat out before kicking in a
tubescreamer the same with eric johnson....just something else to consider......
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midibuddy
Silver Member

Ecuador
285 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2007 :  07:15:50  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
yeah amp volume is important... even in solid state amps, it changes your sound...
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Leeroyfunk
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United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2007 :  12:24:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by midibuddy

yeah amp volume is important... even in solid state amps, it changes your sound...



I think plenty of people forget this. Especially with the bass end: Lower frequency sound waves need more energy to project than trebly ones.
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