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seansdadj
Copper Member
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2008 : 23:01:38
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Gotta great find for you all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvtI0nGSVoQ Albert Collins - "Live at the Montreux" (in '92) DVD
It's supposed to come out in a couple days! March 8!
Been a huge fan of this man since he was in Canned Heat. This is pretty exciting to me, esp. considering it was one of his last performances before he passed away.
Anyone else planning to get the DVD?
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
   
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2008 : 02:32:39
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Blues fans on Bossarea? No, seansdadj, I don't think there are any Blues fans here. I like a nice polka myself BTW welcome to the forum. |
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DeFrag
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USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2008 : 04:34:59
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I love blues.. its my favorite style. Tks for the link & welcome to Bossarea!  |
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jack
Platinum Member
   
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 05:01:37
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| I always dug Albert Collins and its probably part of what drew me to Teles with neck humbuckers... |
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Goran
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Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2008 : 07:28:57
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Welcome to the forum! I�m a huge blues fan as well, have seen Albert Collins live several times. Struggled with the blues for many many years, and it starts paying off� Collins was not a member of Canned Heat (very good band, at least with the original setting) but I suppose he jammed with them several times.
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sp-1
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Germany
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 10:19:06
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| I like my blues......ZZ Top style. |
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
119 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2008 : 13:52:12
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i like the old guys like Collins mentioned and the Kings, but actually i generally shy away from the blues, to the point where i restring guitars and stuff just to get away from all those shapes that are all too easy to fall back on. The guitar is capable of so much more and yet we still bang out the blues (need a yawn emoticon here). i think there's nothing worse than going to a pub, seeing a live band and then having them do a blues jam at the end. Saints help us . |
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 15:27:33
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Blues is rather limited I agree & I think the key is to use it as a seed. Its easy for people to learn & many believe that from it, sprung modern rock.
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visserman
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 16:48:59
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| Is it possible to play [and appreciate] guitarmusic without having a love for the blues? Perhaps if you start out, but sooner or later most people playing the guitar will start to see what the blues has done [and does!!] for the guitar. |
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 17:01:00
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quote: Originally posted by visserman
Is it possible to play [and appreciate] guitarmusic without having a love for the blues? Perhaps if you start out, but sooner or later most people playing the guitar will start to see what the blues has done [and does!!] for the guitar.
The guitar was around a long time before the Blues. Read as a negative i will use your exact quote: "sooner or later most people playing the guitar will start to see what the blues has done [...] for the guitar."
i.e. i hope guitarist see what the Blues has done to limit the guitar's advancement and creativity outside the blues box. |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
   
Canada
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 19:36:55
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What did they use guitars for, before the blues, then? Canoe paddles? |
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DeFrag
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USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2008 : 21:11:50
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zestystrat
Silver Member
 
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 21:54:13
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quote: Originally posted by seansdadj
Gotta great find for you all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvtI0nGSVoQ Albert Collins - "Live at the Montreux" (in '92) DVD
It's supposed to come out in a couple days! March 8!
Been a huge fan of this man since he was in Canned Heat. This is pretty exciting to me, esp. considering it was one of his last performances before he passed away.
Anyone else planning to get the DVD?
Was he in Canned Heat? I'm pretty sure he wasn't in that band.
Anyway thx for the find. His vibrato alone is just awesome.
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
   
Canada
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 22:32:13
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quote: Originally posted by DeFrag
Strumsticks!
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
    
Ireland
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Posted - 03/05/2008 : 01:37:08
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quote: Originally posted by Mr Arkadin
quote: Originally posted by visserman
Is it possible to play [and appreciate] guitarmusic without having a love for the blues? Perhaps if you start out, but sooner or later most people playing the guitar will start to see what the blues has done [and does!!] for the guitar.
The guitar was around a long time before the Blues. Read as a negative i will use your exact quote: "sooner or later most people playing the guitar will start to see what the blues has done [...] for the guitar."
i.e. i hope guitarist see what the Blues has done to limit the guitar's advancement and creativity outside the blues box.
I hope i'm not picking you up wrong but to say that the blues limits the guitars advancement in a load of bollocks..tell it to larry carlton,kenny burrell,robben ford,john schofield,danny gatton,jeff beck,eric clapton,jimi hendrix,.......the list could go on.... the guitar is what you make of it,a blank canvas to paint whatever picture you want...to say that one art form limits a persons creativity,i would say the only thing that limits a persons creativity on the guitar is the person themselves,if someone loves the blues and thats all they want to play thats up to them,you can't force people to play a style of music for arts sake because it's 'playing outside the box'...it's very easy to play the blues badly as you no doubt have seen in some of these pubs but i for one love the blues but am not limited by it..probably because of the huge indigenous influence of celtic music in this country and also there is a great love of country and bluegrass music in ireland as well as rock n roll..... but the blues looms long and large over jazz and rock..we couldn't of had hendrix without the blues or jeff beck who in my humble opinion is probably one of the most innovative electric guitarists alive today.....  |
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2008 : 07:44:56
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quote: Originally posted by FRANZONI
I hope i'm not picking you up wrong but to say that the blues limits the guitars advancement in a load of bollocks..tell it to larry carlton,kenny burrell,robben ford,john schofield,danny gatton,jeff beck,eric clapton,jimi hendrix,.......the list could go on.... the guitar is what you make of it,a blank canvas to paint whatever picture you want...to say that one art form limits a persons creativity,i would say the only thing that limits a persons creativity on the guitar is the person themselves,if someone loves the blues and thats all they want to play thats up to them,you can't force people to play a style of music for arts sake because it's 'playing outside the box'...it's very easy to play the blues badly as you no doubt have seen in some of these pubs but i for one love the blues but am not limited by it..probably because of the huge indigenous influence of celtic music in this country and also there is a great love of country and bluegrass music in ireland as well as rock n roll..... but the blues looms long and large over jazz and rock..we couldn't of had hendrix without the blues or jeff beck who in my humble opinion is probably one of the most innovative electric guitarists alive today..... 
Well to some degree i was trying to be contentious. As i said in my first post i love BB King, Albert King, Albert Collins etc. but i can't bear Clapton. And i love Hendrix. And by far my favourite rock band Led Zep started very bluesy. i just think most of those guys got more interesting later on when they moved away from blues. Sure a lot of that stuff still had a blues base. It's when people, as you rightly point out, play it badly down pubs etc that i can't bear it. Whatever happened to paying your dues to sing the blues? i'm not saying you have pick cotton or be black or anything, just a little hardship though might give it a bit of an edge (that Mr Clapton lost a long time ago).
Also i do think it's limiting. i mean i've discovered all the weird tunings and stuff by myself. As a kid you want to play rock, so your teachers shows you all the pentatonic scales, then the blues scales etc. i've actually met many younger people who play guitar who don't even realise you can tune it to anything other than so-called 'standard'.
In the end i think a knowledge of Blues IS essential for the guitar - as is some knowledge of classical, country, Spanish and folk - even if you never use any of it or have any great skill with it. In fact my blues skills are frankly awful - hence i don't solo. This may explain why i also hate guitar solos (a whole new topic), but again i'm full of contradictions as i love Hendrix, Page, Bill Nelson who do lots of solos. Maybe it's just crappy unneccesary solos i hate. New topic perhaps? |
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