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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/24/2006 :  20:54:51  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
has anyone any experience of software to remove vocals or instruments from songs...i.e we do some floyd numbers in the set and i would like to get some of the sound effects in the background to make them sound more authentic......thanks....

stahlhart
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Posted - 06/26/2006 :  17:47:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've seen ads for devices like this in my travels, but it's been a while.

There is one thing that you could try, if you have component stereo equipment (e.g. a separate CD player connected with audio cables to a receiver or amplifier), and depending on the recording it might or might not work as you need it to, but -- take the right and left signal cables from the CD player, and pull them out of the CD player's jacks slightly... enough that the outer (ground shield) conductor of the RCA plug is disconnected from the jack, but the signal (center pin) isn't. Do this for both of the cables; it will probably be something delicate that you'll have to be careful not to bump into, because at this point the two cables are just touching the jacks and are not securely in place. This disconnects the grounding between the CD player and the receiver/amplifier it is connected to. Play back the CD now.

In some cases this will phase-cancel out the vocals and/or guitar solo tracks (there might be a distant residual echo left behind), and bring up the rhythm tracks in the mix. Sometimes it won't -- it depends on how the recording was produced/mastered.
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stahlhart
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Posted - 06/26/2006 :  17:49:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just curious -- which Pink Floyd track(s)? I have some of their albums, and could try it out at home tonight on my stereo... let me know.
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jack
Platinum Member

USA
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Posted - 06/26/2006 :  21:10:42  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think they make some home karoake machines that remove the vocals from songs, instruments might be a bit tricky though. I would think it might be easier to get some sort of sampler, then record and trigger the sound effects on your own, otherwise with a backing track, your timing would have to be exact and precise to the backing track every single time or else you might run into some Milli Vanilli-Ashlee Simpson moments, with effects coming in too soon or too late. But if you are in a band that is consistently in time, it might not be that big of an issue.

Edited by - jack on 06/26/2006 21:12:50
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Mats GBG
Copper Member

Sweden
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Posted - 06/27/2006 :  08:55:48  Show Profile  Visit Mats GBG's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tascam has this one:

http://www.tascam.com/Products/cdvt1mkii.html

and they also have one for guitar cancelling:

http://www.tascam.com/Products/cdgt1mkii.html

Haven't tried them, so I can't tell you how effective they are...
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GuitarStv
Copper Member

Canada
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Posted - 06/27/2006 :  14:00:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
go here: http://www.gilmourish.com/welcome_index.html and check under the downloads section . .. he's got a few gilmourish backing tracks that you could check out.
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/27/2006 :  20:01:49  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hi thanks for all the replies.. stahlhart we were rehearsing tracks 1,3 and 5 of the dark side of the moon....so i need the voices/heartbeat at the start of speak to me/breathe.... the clock effects at the beginning of 'time'and the cash registers at the start of 'money' we were going to skip 'on the run' and go from breathe into time....i didn't really want to splash out on a tascam because im not really sure it will do what i want and this is probaly just a one off...some of our younger audience have been requesting more floyd so.......i can think of a lot worse things to be requested to play...!! anyway thanks again.... i will try the rca connector trick... my daughters picking the smilies again....!!!
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tomwest
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/28/2007 :  22:58:47  Show Profile  Visit tomwest's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You can kindof do it by out of phase sampling with Audacity although I can't remember how exactly to do it. Watch this space.
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