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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2009 :  17:36:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
whats a good combo on a SD1, i find the DS-1 a terrible combo to it or maybe its just my amp.. I use the SD1 for a light overdrive on rhythm.What can i use to boost it when doing solo/leads without damaging the overdrive's tone and can add some punch to it?any suggestions?thanks!

Shermock
Bronze Member

Sweden
61 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2009 :  20:16:38  Show Profile  Visit Shermock's Homepage  Reply with Quote
add another sd-1, that wont damage your overdrive tone. and if that aint enough just add a third one....just kidding.
what amp do you use?
the sd-1 will work best with a tubeamp at or a little over its breakup point.
im using a sd-1 along with a ds-1 at the moment and its sounds really good.
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leonard d rock
Silver Member

Philippines
301 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2009 :  05:59:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if your boosting the sd-1 with a ds-1, it won't work well because the ds-1 has a more "powerful" gain pushing the "lighter" overdrive. i boost mine with an od-1 or an ibanez ts-5. i use the sd-1 to push the ds-1, not the other way. although i havent tried one yet as a booster, i've read here lots of guys using a bd-1 as a boost with good results.
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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2009 :  17:35:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shermock

add another sd-1, that wont damage your overdrive tone. and if that aint enough just add a third one....just kidding.
what amp do you use?
the sd-1 will work best with a tubeamp at or a little over its breakup point.
im using a sd-1 along with a ds-1 at the moment and its sounds really good.



thanks for the reply man! i use a 15watt marshall mg series amp i know i know its small and its not tubes.the sound of the sd1 and ds1 sounded like a mosquito buzzing.i turned down the ds1 dist knobs and level so it will just add a little boost to the sd 1 but it sounded like it lacks some good tone and sustain to it. i think its my amp.. isn't it? Will the ds 1 sd 1 combo in a tube amp could really work?sorry for the noob question..im using low watt combo amps and i cant get a really good tone out of it.Boss pedals are good its just how u tweaked it.but my amp i think is way small and not powerful enough.

Edited by - mindtwist07 on 03/24/2009 17:51:20
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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2009 :  17:40:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by leonard d rock

if your boosting the sd-1 with a ds-1, it won't work well because the ds-1 has a more "powerful" gain pushing the "lighter" overdrive. i boost mine with an od-1 or an ibanez ts-5. i use the sd-1 to push the ds-1, not the other way. although i havent tried one yet as a booster, i've read here lots of guys using a bd-1 as a boost with good results.



thanks! i think i should try the bd1 for boost. i think the sd-1 should be pushed by another overdrive rather than a distortion for a better tone i dont have a BD1 or OD1 or a ts series yet..i might use this info in the future thanks bro.kapwa pinoy pa.salamat! hehe
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Shermock
Bronze Member

Sweden
61 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2009 :  20:31:40  Show Profile  Visit Shermock's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think your problem is that your amp is an transistor.
15 watt tube amp would most certainly be enough. I dont have that much experinece with tranny amps but i dont think i would put an sd-1 and a ds-1 infront of it....i would try and multieffect in witch you can add comp, eq and other things to make it sound decent.
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leonard d rock
Silver Member

Philippines
301 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2009 :  07:05:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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kapwa pinoy pa.



anytyme kabayan. i use a 10 watt solid state marshall for small club gigs. if you want a cheap overdrive to boost your sd-1, try the denio od-100 its less than 2000 php, its an sd-1 clone and widely available there.

ldr
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drewkiewiet
Bronze Member

USA
86 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2009 :  09:26:43  Show Profile  Send drewkiewiet an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The SD-1 was my first OD pedal. I now use an Ibanez TS9DX OD to boost my SD-1 (and vice versa...I switch them periodically). It works great for me. I run those two pedals into a proco rat distortion pedal for screaming leads (and w/ my les paul, the combo is killer if I do say so myself). Now that I think of it, I believe I have an EQ after the OD's and before the distortion...really tightens everything up. I play out of a Vox AC15 mostly clean (I'm not a huge fan of the OD on the amp...it's a newer chinese model...hence all the OD and distortion stompboxes). Hope that is helpful!
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crissoliva
Copper Member

Turkey
14 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2009 :  03:09:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone knows why 2 SD-1's are too noisy while they are used together?
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strat714
Silver Member

USA
156 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2009 :  03:59:26  Show Profile  Visit strat714's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I like using a GE-7 to boost. That way I can keep the SD-1 tone and just boost the level or give it a midrange boost which brings up your solos in the mix. If you want a nastier or more powerful distortion, just get yourself a ML-2 and put it right next to your SD-1. This way you can turn on one while you turn off the other by stomping on both of them at once.
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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2009 :  10:32:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by drewkiewiet

The SD-1 was my first OD pedal. I now use an Ibanez TS9DX OD to boost my SD-1 (and vice versa...I switch them periodically). It works great for me. I run those two pedals into a proco rat distortion pedal for screaming leads (and w/ my les paul, the combo is killer if I do say so myself). Now that I think of it, I believe I have an EQ after the OD's and before the distortion...really tightens everything up. I play out of a Vox AC15 mostly clean (I'm not a huge fan of the OD on the amp...it's a newer chinese model...hence all the OD and distortion stompboxes). Hope that is helpful!



thanks man.that was really helpful.Your using a tube amp thats why it sounded good.I didnt get any punch i might say when using a solid state amp like me.I'm using an equalizer now as boost..most od's here are mostly TS9's haven't seen any TS9DX's here on the market..But i ear those TS9dx's are very flexible and sounded good too.
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mindtwist07
Copper Member

Philippines
24 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2009 :  10:41:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by strat714

I like using a GE-7 to boost. That way I can keep the SD-1 tone and just boost the level or give it a midrange boost which brings up your solos in the mix. If you want a nastier or more powerful distortion, just get yourself a ML-2 and put it right next to your SD-1. This way you can turn on one while you turn off the other by stomping on both of them at once.



I have a MT-2 and a DS1 I use in different occasions..I'm using a different EQ now and its an old Guyatone GVIII pro.It has different level freq on its sliders than a GE7.so I don't have any references to use rather than my ear.like u said using eq for the boost i got good results though my amp is weak at the same time cant get any punch through it.I tested in on my friends amp which is a 30watt zoom fire and i got better results.Thanks for the help!I really appreciated it!
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2009 :  10:56:54  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by crissoliva

Anyone knows why 2 SD-1's are too noisy while they are used together?


Hi crissoliva

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Regards Dr. Bob
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2009 :  11:35:47  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

quote:
Originally posted by crissoliva

Anyone knows why 2 SD-1's are too noisy while they are used together?


Hi crissoliva

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Regards Dr. Bob



+1...welcome from ireland.........i find any two overdrives or distortions used together all have noise issues,it's just the nature of the beast.... playing in a band context you don't really hear it with a drummer and bass/other guitar player etc.....

I used to use the OD-2 with my DS-1 but i wasn't too happy with the tone either..... eventully i just used the OD-2 on it's own until i got my SD twin tube.....

the TS9 DX......a mate of mine who stood in with the band while i was on hols used one at a rehearsal before i went away through a little 60 watt tranny amp we carry as a spare/monitor...and i was very impressed with the tone he could get....he also used it with his MIT DS-1 and it sounded pretty good.. so possibly a better match than the SD-1....

Edited by - FRANZONI on 03/31/2009 11:36:42
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2009 :  13:11:06  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Franzoni

Slightly off topic of a minute.

quote:

the TS9 DX......a mate of mine who stood in with the band while i was on hols used one at a rehearsal before i went away through a little 60 watt tranny amp we carry as a spare/monitor...and i was very impressed with the tone he could get....he also used it with his MIT DS-1 and it sounded pretty good.. so possibly a better match than the SD-1....



Don't forget you were probably listening to it from a different (the audiences) perspective.
And that in itself, would have made a big difference to the perceived tone.

Ever really listened to someone else play your guitar & gear?
And how much different it sounded?

Regards Dr. Bob
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crissoliva
Copper Member

Turkey
14 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2009 :  16:19:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all.I think i'm going to try some mods on one of my SD-1s.I need more powerful SD-1 with the same tone character.I'd like to try o MIJ too
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