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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
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 Posted - 03/24/2009 : 13:00:36
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I was just in a local guitar shop and had some fun with a variety of delay pedals.
I tested:
VOX Time Machine
T-REX Reptile
MXR Carbon Copy
the first that had to go cause I didn't like it so much was the Carbon Copy. It's okay but it really distorts (and more than any other analog delay I've tried so far - which were the DM-2 and a Ibanez AD99)
Now I tried those two digital pedals and the VOX while being a cool little box with loads of features was simply too bright (even with the lofi mode engaged) - the vintage mode is better but still crispy clean to be honest
the T-Rex however was a surprise to me. Superb sound and really warm without the uglyness of analog delay's distortion/aliasing - the modulation feature is super nice (although I'm not too sure about those plastic knobs for the modulation side)
still the dealer offered me a VERY nice deal... I'm tempted.
cheers,
mully |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2009 : 13:15:39
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| Have to agree with you on the Carbon Copy. I picked up a used one cheap a few weeks ago and thought "great! a new analogue delay!"... but it just doesn't cut it. Went onto the shelf within about 4 days. |
Edited by - Laurie on 03/24/2009 13:23:34 |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2009 : 16:05:34
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what a journey.....
okay so.... in the store I liked the Reptile very much.... so I went back and bought it (for �200 since it was without box)
plugged it in at home... and the fucker was just too noisy... really couldn't hear that in the store...
so I went back and said... "lemme try the VOX one again oh and... ah there's a DD7 - that too please"
the guy just gave me both pedals and said "take 'em home and see which one you like"
and I did....
at home the VOX won - with a landslide....
the DD-7 was way too noisy with the repeats turned up all the way. not so the VOX.... super clean - no noise.... and with a seperate out for the repeats which I plan to run thru a CS-1 and a hi cut filter... that should make a superb sound.
All in all - what I wanna say is:
if you want to hear a super quiet delay pedal (with a direct signal that doesn't pass thru any A/D D/A conversion) check the time machine....
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2009 : 16:33:01
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Originally posted by DeFrag
If the Moog MF-104Z Analog Delay is too expensive, there's the Diamond Memory Lane 2 which hasn't been mentioned & looks sweet.
http://www.diamondpedals.com/products/memorylane.html
I honestly don't know anymore if I have been looking for an analog delay after all... I love many aspects of analog delays but I do hate others.... clock noise, aliasing and distortion I cannot stand at all...
I'm quite happy with the time machine and I'm keeping it.
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nosi0
Gold Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 03/24/2009 : 16:47:27
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I have tried the Time Machine it is a great pedal and i really want it but i simply don't have the money to buy one. I have a Satchurator though it is amazing  |
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nathanscribe
Silver Member
United Kingdom
376 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2009 : 21:53:40
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I get a lot of use out of my Biyang AD-7. It's not analogue (though it is called "analogue delay" it uses a digital PT2399 IC) but it does have that rough edge to it with softening repeats. It also self-oscillates madly when you crank it, which I love. Pretty good prices these, too.
The Behringer VM-1 is OK but not amazing. Cheap, metal-bodied (but with crap knobs) and has a couple of tricks up its sleeve, but I suppose you have to try these things to know. I'll be keeping it for a while anyway, till I can afford a Moog.
I'm also pretty pleased with my Boss PS-2. I got it for mad pitch-shifting happiness, but the delay on it is finding some use at longer settings that my other pedals don't reach. It has a definitely digital feel to it, which isn't my normal thing, but it has a slot.
Also recommended is the Boss RDD-20 (and 10 I suppose) - not a pedal, but sounds good and has modulation, as well as the ability to sync units to other microracks.
If racks are a possibility, I have a Digitech RDD-1900, which is bonkers. Does mad chorus/flange/echo/delay with looping of the sample if you want it. Utterly mad for modulation and weird noises. Was given it a few months ago when a local pro studio were chucking stuff away... 
Never heard of those Daimond ones... might have to check out the UK prices. |
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 03/25/2009 : 11:41:35
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quote:
Originally posted by MullyFX
quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag
If the Moog MF-104Z Analog Delay is too expensive, there's the Diamond Memory Lane 2 which hasn't been mentioned & looks sweet.
http://www.diamondpedals.com/products/memorylane.html
I honestly don't know anymore if I have been looking for an analog delay after all... I love many aspects of analog delays but I do hate others.... clock noise, aliasing and distortion I cannot stand at all...
I'm quite happy with the time machine and I'm keeping it.
Analogue Delays are a big hype. It may be because they are from the past, and delay was something unusual in the past [Was it??]
On pedals like the DD2 it always strikes me how clear the repeats are, and after all they is what we want eh?
When you go to analogue delays, repeats are less clear and some distort very quickly. When playing through them you may wonder what to like about them.
Overal the analogues are different in feel, they change your tone [some of them do] and this may be what people like.
I have an old Memory Man, I use this in the LS-2 loop to boost the orginal signal since there is so much noise and the repeats do need that boost. I do like that set-up, it has to do with the idea that here is an old pedal at work. This may be the main reason why people feel analogues are so much better than the digital ones.
When it comes to clear repeats I do like the digital ones, and the Boss DD range is very good.
All other Boss pedals which offer delay are good as well, but the sound of the DD's is much better, less clean and more viby. |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2009 : 16:39:27
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Another great analog delay that can be picked up real cheap is the Arion SAD-1.
Although made of plastic, it comes pretty close to the DM-2. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2009 : 16:48:22
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Still a fan of the DD-3.... ......... |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2009 : 17:45:33
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I kinda love my MF-104Z.  |
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
1185 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2009 : 18:41:01
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The Diamond Memory Lane and Memory Lane II are incredible.. but not inexpensive by any means.
Did anyone try the Eventide TimeFactor? I know people who love it and swear by it (a little plasticky seeming to me, but I'd like to hear opinions). |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2009 : 23:05:19
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
Still a fan of the DD-3.............
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Gizzorge
Silver Member
USA
245 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2009 : 22:35:09
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| I dig the Carbon copy. Maybe it is distorting on the really long repeats rates, which is bound to happen on a analog delay that can do 600ms? |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2009 : 23:15:02
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Originally posted by Gizzorge
I dig the Carbon copy. Maybe it is distorting on the really long repeats rates, which is bound to happen on a analog delay that can do 600ms?
fair enough.... although I think there are analog delays that can do 900 - 1000ms and I'm not sure if they distort this much..
anyway.... I'm convinced now that I simply don't want an analog delay.... an analog dry signal path will do just fine the repeats themselves can be digital or tape (I'm done with BBD delays............ for now - hehe)
and again the VOX Time Machine is WICKED.... super quiet and while crispy clean it simply sounds good... and the modulation is SUPER subtle.. not like the DD-7's modulation mode (which is a bit too much imo) |
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exodia333
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 03/27/2009 : 20:23:19
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Originally posted by MullyFX
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Originally posted by Gizzorge
I dig the Carbon copy. Maybe it is distorting on the really long repeats rates, which is bound to happen on a analog delay that can do 600ms?
fair enough.... although I think there are analog delays that can do 900 - 1000ms and I'm not sure if they distort this much..
anyway.... I'm convinced now that I simply don't want an analog delay.... an analog dry signal path will do just fine the repeats themselves can be digital or tape (I'm done with BBD delays............ for now - hehe)
and again the VOX Time Machine is WICKED.... super quiet and while crispy clean it simply sounds good... and the modulation is SUPER subtle.. not like the DD-7's modulation mode (which is a bit too much imo)
Thats why I only use the analog,looper,and sometimes the digital part on my DD-7 |
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