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Proco
Copper Member
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 Posted - 02/21/2010 : 01:21:18
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Hi guys, this is my first post here as you can see
I'm a BOSS pedals lover, although I don't have a lot of experience with the ODs and Distortions.
My gear is a Les Paul Jr with a Twin Reverb or a Plexi running clean-ish.
What I'm looking for is kinda difficult to explain, but a good way would saying tha I like the Melvins, Foo Fighters... and what I want is a powerful distortion, plenty of low end BUT not "heavy metal", more alternative/modern rock. I usually tune down the guitar a whole step.
So... one day I tried the BD-2. Overall is really nice, but too fuzzy. I'm about to buy a Keeley modded, hoping that this one keeps everrything I like about the original (low end, basically) but gets rid of that splatiness and fizzy decay.
One that I love the way it is is the OD-3, but it lacks gain.
So... I was wondering, how would stacking both of them result? Has anyone done it? Wich are th alternatives? Lot's of people say DS-2, but I notice that i doesn't have too much low-end and the overall volume is quiet, smae as the DS-1...
Well, hope you can help me, and congrats for such an amazing community towards BOSS stuff  |
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Ollie
Gold Member
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 01:26:59
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| DS-2 & GE- 7 maybe a good combo |
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Proco
Copper Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 01:46:46
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Yeah but, the Ge-7 by itself would produce enough low end?
ANd I like the sound rseulting of stacking pedals... dunno, it's like, I can hear more even harmonics, the sound is fuller and richer... never tried a pedal that sounds like that by itself.
Or does the Ds2 do that? |
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member
USA
419 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 01:48:26
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Hi Proco, Welcome to the forum from Phillytown! Like Ollie says an EQ might really help. Another option, Boss pedal wise would be the PW-2 Power Driver, great lowend! Also the XT-2 Xtortion, great lows and filters similar to a fixed position wah. Both of these were only produced for a short time in the late 90's, but can usually be found on eBay for under $90. Great underrated pedals! By the way does Proco have anything to do with the Rat?! |
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Ollie
Gold Member
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 01:50:58
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I don't use Boss Distortions but I used to use a DS-2 and a MD-2. I sold my DS-1 for the DS-2, some people prefer the DS-1, I felt you got more variety out of the DS-2 tbh. But like I said, I don't use it any more (it's in the Buy/Sell forum).
The GE-7 is really good. i recently placed it before my distortion and can now get a variety of new sounds. (I use it for a mids boost, for solos after doing slightly scooped rythm) |
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Proco
Copper Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 01:58:03
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Thanks for the answers. Well, I see a cheap MXR 10 band EQ for cheap in a spanish guitar forum (I'm from Barcelona, BTW) so maybe I'll buy it, as I see it's a nice tool to have around.
Never tried the DS-2, all YouTube demos seems to show a fizzy and thin sound coming out of it, so I never cared about it, but people don't stop recommending me that pedal... well, I'll have to give it a try.
Proco, hehe, no man, that's just 'cause I love the RATs, but lately I've started to fine then too generic sounding, and that why I'm looking for od/dist alternatives (I've been stacking two RATs so far with good results).
The thing is that I love the way the OD-3 sounds... dunno if takes other pedals friendly or it's a lonely yeller... |
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Ollie
Gold Member
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 02:00:12
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| OD-3 is amazing. I took it off my board as I'm buying a Blackstar HT-Dual next week (I also use a Blackstar Distx). It's a really good Overdrive the OD3, not badly priced either. |
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Proco
Copper Member
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Proco
Copper Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 02:01:44
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Yeah, sure I'll get an OD-3 eventually.
I've been happy with my Dist tone so far, so I'm not in a rush, it's just about trying new stuff. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 04:18:00
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Hi Proco
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
Going back to your original post.
By "Stacking" do you mean, running one into another like
we would do normally with daisy chaining the pedals together?
Or do you mean running your guitar into a 3 or 4 way splitter
and then having the split signals run into the 3-4 pedals,
the recombining all the outputs of the pedals back into a small mixer?
In this case it would be considered "Parallel" & they way I think about stacking.
This is a cable, & gear intensive setup, but can yield some truly amazing (DIFFERENT) sounds.
The individual signal levels can be adjusted from the mini mixer.
You could have really low crunch on top of a medium level overdrive.
Chorus on top of delay.
basically thousands of new setting you cannot achieve with, or difficult to achieve with pedals in a daisy chain.
I hope you guys understand what I'm trying to write here.
I know I make my own head hurt some days, thinking about these kinds of "Parallel" setups & the possibilities.
I know a lot of top end studios (if you have the cash for their time)
Do these kinds of setups.
It is similar as having a bunch of different amps running all together,
Like SRV & other player have done over the years.
Regards Dr. Bob 
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 06:20:44
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Welcome to the forum from Ireland... ..i'm like ollie i don't use boss distortions anymore but like ollie and a few others here on the forum i use valve overdrive/distortion pedals these days...might be what your after...
Dr Bob ..was that how you achieved your quadraphonic chorus thingy a while back....?......
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Proco
Copper Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 10:54:42
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Wow, never though about parallel set-ups! Looks crazy, and sure you can get a crazy amount of tones, but at the moment I'm just thinking about the tipical "stacking" concept, running a pedal driving the next one.
But thanks for the iedea, I'll definetly try that some day.
Yeah it seems like Blackstar pedal are getting lots of love these days, never tried one myself, as I one msotly tube amps, and using tube pedals seems a bit redundant to me. And actually I like when a pedal sounds "like a pedal", not meaning little, boxy, thin sounding, just "different" than tube OD/Dist.
Anyway, After sleeping I see thinks more clear. Maybe I'll buy the Keeley BD-2, but not the OD-3. I'll gat an OCD instead, "british" voiced and capable of more gain while not scooped metal.
What do you guys think?
Having an american voiced pedal (BD-2) and a british one could be a good option to stack, although people says the OCD is not really easy to stack with...
Ahhh, too much to thinks. OD sound is always headache... frist time I tried RV-5, perfect, never tried anything else. Same with the SmallStone and the DD-20... but Overdrives? uh... neverending story. |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 12:52:25
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| I own the keeley bd-2 it has a little more low end vs. the stock version.The od-3 has alot of low end to begin with and not alot of distortion so i would check it out.Or as a few people arund here has metioned add an eq to the mix |
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Proco
Copper Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 13:08:59
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Which mod is better if you want to use BD-2's highest gain settings? Keeley? Monte Allums? Brent Mason (indyguitarist)?
Definetly gonna get the BD-2, the, will see, at least it will make a little dif in my sound (instead of two RATs, just one first and then the BD-2, more low end = more happyness). |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 13:10:01
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Hi Proco, Franzoni & Guys
Technically what you are doing is called "Daisy Chaining"
Some of us were a little confused when you called it Stacking.
As for the dirt pedal dilemma,
ask Goran about the OCD, he has one.
I belive it's one of the very few pedals he owns,
that he has kept because of it's tone & character & warmth.
Perhaps Goran will chime in a tell you more.
He has been trying to convince me to build-buy an OCD V4, or is it V1.4 ...
Franzoni
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Dr Bob ..was that how you achieved your quadraphonic chorus thingy a while back....?......
Yes it's the way I do my Tri-Chorus setup with my CE-2's.
quadraphonic chorus thingy - cool name for a song/album
The Tri-Chorus setup grows from year to year. 
(hint: well beyond anything quadraphonic these days)
Proco - Don't be disheartened by distortion & overdrive pedals,
that's the reason some of us have unholy amounts in our collections.
Regards Dr. Bob
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Edited by - Dr. Bob on 02/21/2010 13:17:08 |
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Proco
Copper Member
11 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2010 : 14:18:57
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Weel, I usually read&write in TGP forums and when you say "stacking" everyone knows what is it. But well, I guess, different forums different worlds
Yeah, Daisy Chaining sounds like a more exact explanation.
Well, first I'll keep a RAT and buy a BD-2, we'll see next. WHat I dunno is which mod gets rip of that fizzy decay at higher gain settings without decreasing the available distortion. |
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Stacking BD-2 and OD-3? or DS-2? Alt/rock sound
