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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
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 Posted - 12/09/2008 : 20:11:17
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i'm thinking of retiring my od-1. so what will remain will be hm-2, and ds-1. what is the most versatile od between the bd-2 and the sd-1? the od-3 is out of my budget right now.
the SD-1 is definitely more versatile than a BD-2 in that the SD-1 has way more gain potential than a BD-2. BD-2's maxed out gain is similar to the SD-1's gain at 12 o'clock.
The BD-2 will "back off" a little more at more gain settings than an SD-1 will, but the scope of sounds a BD-2 will do that an SD-1 won't do is minor in comparison to what the SD-1 will do that a BD-2 can't.
i will say i'm a hater of the BD-2 though. i used them when i was playing vintage fender/music man tube amps or tweeds but haven't found any use for them since then.
if i were you i'd stick with the OD-1. |
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leonard d rock
Silver Member
Philippines
301 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2008 : 03:09:46
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[/quote]the SD-1 is definitely more versatile than a BD-2 in that the SD-1 has way more gain potential than a BD-2. BD-2's maxed out gain is similar to the SD-1's gain at 12 o'clock.
but the scope of sounds a BD-2 will do that an SD-1 won't do is minor in comparison to what the SD-1 will do that a BD-2 can't.
if i were you i'd stick with the OD-1.
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thanks zentropa. i think it is finally the sd-1 for me. i wish i could stick with the od-1 but it is becoming temperamental at times, plus the lack of a tone control is a little limiting. however, the overdrive sound is great and i am hoping to imitate the od-1 sound in the sd-1. i might even swap their opamps if needed. 
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 23:57:42
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| the bd-2 is a great pedal. if you don't use it it is still god to have in your collection |
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
837 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2008 : 01:32:52
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i wish i could stick with the od-1 but it is becoming temperamental at times, plus the lack of a tone control is a little limiting. however, the overdrive sound is great and i am hoping to imitate the od-1 sound in the sd-1. i might even swap their opamps if needed.
what op amp do you have in your OD-1?
basically, if you match up the op amps and set the tone knob to 12 o'clock, you'll get nearly identical performance from the SD-1 as from an OD-1 (even the same bleed issue is on both heh). i would note the older of an SD-1 you can get, the closer the sound you will get. even an MIT marked with ACA adapter use will be closer than a new MIT.
one thing i'd say though, don't worry too much about versatility from dirt boxes. i generally will favor a pedal that does 1 thing really well than a pedal that does multiple things only averagely.
from a versatility standpoint, any of the 2 mode pedals would smoke em, but then a floor unit would beat that, etc. honestly, i think the OS-2 is the only boss pedal i can really get 2 sounds i feel are particularly usable from.
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midibuddy
Silver Member
Ecuador
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Posted - 12/12/2008 : 19:46:00
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| I find my BD-2 more versatile than an SD-1 in my setup... Anyway, both are great pedals, I'd recommend you getting both.. maybe you can combine them two and you will surely achieve wonderful sounds! |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2008 : 00:12:28
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| the bd-2 can give great distortion or just a volume boost but it real great when you just want to add some grit to your clean sound |
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leonard d rock
Silver Member
Philippines
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Posted - 12/13/2008 : 03:48:50
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well, this may be partly a thread hijack (sorry) now but I GOT AN SD-1 yesterday
 . i purposely didn't test the bd-2 so i would be forced to make a difficult choice between the two or BOTH the guy at the store gave me really big discount since i just bought a Peavey generation tele from them last month plus stuff over the years. but i will buy the bd-2 and the od-3 next year or when the money is avaialble. didnt somebody say here in this forum " you can never have enough od pedals" or sumthin like that?
zentropa, my od-1 has an rca4558 opamp, it an early 80's model. i got up early this morning and started playing with the SD1. i lined it up with the OD1 and a TS5 but really couldn't do serious comparing since i kept turning on the knobs of the SD1. it sounds good in my setup!the versatility was about having one od pedal i could put in my guitar case and gig without the rest.
regards to all'
ldr
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 12/13/2008 : 04:43:56
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Hi leonard d rock (LDR)
Congrats on the SD-1
MIJ or MIT?
And can I ask what you paid (in $US)?
Do you have any big gigs comming up before/during Christmas/New Year?
Regards Dr. Bob |
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leonard d rock
Silver Member
Philippines
301 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2008 : 05:45:02
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hi dr. bob,
thanks! i paid about $79 for it discounted, sticker price about $93. its MIT with serial number ZW 59438 which the decoder said was made in December 2007.came with a box, manual,some other pages and a 2007 catalog.
for christmas gigs, my band is slated to play on december 18 at an open festival with other bands. we are also planning weekend gigs during the at the club our bass player owns (its our official home).
regards,
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midibuddy
Silver Member
Ecuador
285 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2008 : 06:48:57
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| When I must use only one dirt pedal I've always relied on my "EcuaKeeley" DS-1... but then again, back then I didn't have the BD-2... |
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
837 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2008 : 07:18:18
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LDR:
glad it sounds good to you. if you swap the op amps to something siimilar to what's in your OD-1, you'll likely find that you get a bitey characteristic closer to the OD-1 but with less fuzz/gain potential.
personally, i don't think an OD-3 is a huge upgrade over an SD-1 w/ a lower gain/higher boost op amp. as much as i like the OD-3, it does eat a significant amount of high end... seems to swallow anything over ~4500-5000hz. what it really does have going for it is that it doesn't have the bleed or volume boost problems that a stock SD-1 can have, which often makes it a better "out of the box" choice.
another note on the SD-1, i would personally recommend avoiding any hi-fi mods that aren't part of a larger mod as from my experiences, the tone just doesn't respond all that well without several other component changes (it leaves a lot of open "air" in the tone).
as for BD-2's, i'm just not a fan of it except for in particular cases. i believe most people who seem to love it primarily play single coil pickups as my experiences have shown it to be fairly bad with humbuckers. the one time i found one that stayed on my pedal board it was during my strat through a twin reverb phase and i wanted something that would push my tone to a mild break at a reasonable volume.
as for versatility, i look at that from a standpoint of how large of a sonic range the pedal can cover. while the BD-2 isn't the least versatile of pedals (the HM-2/HM-3 or something along those lines would win the award for pedal that is capable of only really doing 1 primary sound), it does probably have the smallest dynamic range out of any of boss's overdrives.
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August West
Bronze Member
USA
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Posted - 12/13/2008 : 17:39:52
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| The only OD I have is a BD-2 and I am happy with it. I can't really compare it to OD-1, SD-1 etc. since I don't have those. By December 26 I should have a Rt 66 to compare it against, with any luck. |
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leonard d rock
Silver Member
Philippines
301 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 05:00:54
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Originally posted by zentropa
LDR:
as for BD-2's, i'm just not a fan of it except for in particular cases. i believe most people who seem to love it primarily play single coil pickups as my experiences have shown it to be fairly bad with humbuckers.
hello guys, played the sd-1 yesterday and sounds good with buckers. with the single coils, i coulndt find a good setting for it yet
. maybe zentopa's right, i need a bd-2 for single coils just the reaon i needed.
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
837 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 08:30:24
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LDR:
if you swap out the JRC4558DD for a JRC4558D, RC4558P, etc. it will handle single coils better (but lose some of its smoothness with humbuckers).
basically, the 4558DD just doesn't have a ton of bite, so for a boosted attack sound, an op amp swap is a good $0.35 investment.
the OD-3 is a lot bitier, but since op amps are so cheap, it's probably still a better value for you to simply replace that component. |
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midibuddy
Silver Member
Ecuador
285 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2008 : 15:40:02
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| What settings do you usually have on your BD-2? What do you use it for? Level boost? Gain boost? As a stand-alone distortion? As an overdrive? In combination with another dirt pedal? Please post examples of songs, or bands... Thanks! |
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Would you recommend getting a BD-2?
