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starr36
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Canada
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  09:51:58  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Was reading up and watching some youtube clips of Hendrix at woodstock and some old TV show clips etc. I never was really into that 60s thing at all, but .... i'd say he was a pretty rippin dude. wtf he get all messed up on drugs for? Imagine what he'd be playing know if he was still alive? Sucks when talent like that is flushed down the terlet. Some of the speed he had was really amazing.

kelmaur
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USA
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  10:22:58  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
yah i have always wondered my self

what he'd be doing if he were alive today

imagine a G3 with hendrix?
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The_Doc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  11:07:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just missed seeing Hendrix at the IoW festival in 1970 - I was only 14 and too young and poor in those days to make that trip and I've regretted it ever since. But I have remained a Hendrix fan all my life.

There was an article in Guitarist Mag a few years ago that considered what would Hendrix be doing now if he had survived. They had a picture of him made up with grey dreads and looking super-cool! The idea was that he would have gone into jazz ... maybe - I don't know.

I've still got that mag somewhere, I'll see if I can dig it out and have another read of it.

A great topic to start up starr36 - thanks
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  13:19:43  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
that is what makes him so great he died early. those albums would be pretty tame now if he was still around
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  14:58:45  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Possibly some of the tracks/songs are not as good as others but ,'Third Stone from the Sun' has always been a favourite as well as 'Voodoo chile' and the footage of him playing the blues on a 12 string acoustic was one of the reasons i bought one evn though i'm not a Hendrix fanatic like some....... but the fact he died young did have a big impact on his legacy.... remember he was in dicussions with Miles Davis and legend has it that they jammed at one stage in private so i agree with The_Doc on that he might of gone down the jazz route..and when you look at the players who went through Mile's band after..Robben Ford,John Scofield,Mike Stern.... etc you could easily envisage Hendrix sittin' in no problem.....i think eventully he would have gone back to the Blues as i'm pretty sure thats where his soul was at but also calling Mile Davis a simple jazz player is a gross understatment...both of these giants are world musicians....

Edited by - FRANZONI on 02/08/2009 15:00:44
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zestystrat
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USA
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  14:59:50  Show Profile  Visit zestystrat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well he did record with the Brecker Bros. There is at least one track officially available. So I think the Fusion, Jazz-Rock thing was at least one path he could have gone on to do. Funny, I think the same could be said about SRV.

Also, depending on which book you read about Jimi, there was a lot of talk with Miles about recording an album. The last book I read (written by the same guy that tore apart Cobain) said that they wanted to do it but Miles wanted a big advance or guarantee or something so it got pushed back - Jimi died b/f it happened.

I can't remember the author but this book was pretty good look at his life before stardom, including his horrible childhood and life on the road with Little Richard and other Chitlin circuit artists.

Also I think it's does not go without saying he lived in a time with a different view and understanding of drugs and what they could do.

I'm psyched for you that you have a cool new artist to check out enjoy and absorb. He's a big one when it comes to the guitar so there is much to appreciate and enjoy.

EDIT: 'zoni you beat me to the punch on the Miles thing.

Edited by - zestystrat on 02/08/2009 15:01:31
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  15:03:19  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Howdy Zesty..... i see were on the same train of thought as The_Doc................
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
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USA
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  15:41:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...Jimi died of a sleeping pill overdose...the brand he took in the U.S.(for jet lag)is not as potent as the same name brand he ate the night he died in London(instead of his usual 4 he unknowingly took 16)...drank a glass of red wine and then fell asleep on his back!...poor bastard choked on his own vomit...same as Bonham...had to clarify because most people think he was a classic example of how a rock star checks out...seems to me it was a preventable tragedy....on another note a few years ago his old girlfriend filed a lawsuit against the girl that was w/ him the night he died for negligence (apparently she f**ked around a bit before calling the squad)she was found guilty but commited suicide before she could be sentenced...
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Leeroyfunk
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  15:58:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brutalitarian Supremacy

...Jimi died of a sleeping pill overdose...the brand he took in the U.S.(for jet lag)is not as potent as the same name brand he ate the night he died in London(instead of his usual 4 he unknowingly took 16)...drank a glass of red wine and then fell asleep on his back!...poor bastard choked on his own vomit...same as Bonham...had to clarify because most people think he was a classic example of how a rock star checks out...seems to me it was a preventable tragedy....on another note a few years ago his old girlfriend filed a lawsuit against the girl that was w/ him the night he died for negligence (apparently she f**ked around a bit before calling the squad)she was found guilty but commited suicide before she could be sentenced...



Just about to post the exact same thing - Hendrix's death was not a typical drug related OD, he simply choked on vomit, and I don't think he was generally a big drug user. Bonham, on the other hand, was perhaps the UK's greatest drinker...
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Shermock
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Sweden
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  18:04:32  Show Profile  Visit Shermock's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That Hendrix and Davis relation has been debated ever since hendrix died. miles even attended hendrix funeral and spoke about the loss and complained that they never got togheter. Man, just imagine if hendrix would have played on Bitches Brew or In A Silent Way or A Tribute To Jack Johnson, not to knock john mclaughlin but jimis style would have fit like a glove.

I remember one mag that did a "what if hendrix lived" story and they called the record davis and hendrix finally did (or would have done)....."Psychodelic Surfboard" pretty far out!!
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silvertone6120
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USA
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  19:21:43  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, but it could've been terrible. What if, like everyone else, Hendrix jumped into disco??...Any other emoticons available to show my disgust??

Edited by - silvertone6120 on 02/08/2009 19:22:08
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  19:32:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I listened to some studio Hendrix yesterday, I do that quite often, and was amazed with the layers of guitars that he used so beautifully. He was really creative in the studio, some of his songs took a long time to record, by that time.
I have alway been a great fan of Hendrix, even saw him live when I was 15 here in Sweden.
There was a great Swedish band that Hendrix jammed a lot with called Hansson & Karlsson. That band was very, very different to anything in Sweden (or the world) at that time. Hammond organ and a drummer from the jazz world, that�s it! They played a heavy improvised psychedelic music, really long songs, extremely good in my ears (still).
Hendrix even recorded a song by H&K, Tax free.
But the interesting thing is that a lot of the jams with Hendrix & H&K were recorded on good equipment by a person who worked with H&K. I don�t know if anything has surfaced, I have never heard anything. But in an interview with Janne Karlsson (the drummer) a couple of years ago. he told that there was much music recorded with Hendrix and H&K jamming.

Hansson & Karlsson�s music is highly recommende, for you who downloads "illegal" try to find the "Monument" record. Original vinyls command very high prices...

Edited by - Goran on 02/08/2009 19:35:15
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nathanscribe
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  22:59:03  Show Profile  Visit nathanscribe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Back in the day, my parents and their 2 friends went to see Hendrix play a hotel up in Ilkley, Yorkshire, UK. It was packed, and after a few minutes the manager intervened and stopped the gig due to fire regulations. Hendrix said he'd play the set twice if half the crowd waited outside, but somebody wasn't happy and things turned nasty. There were lights broken, furniture smashed - the police got people out, and if you handed your ticket back in you got your money back.

My folks took their refund, but their friends chose not to wait. They met outside and all four decided to go get something to eat instead. They ended up going to the famous fish & chip shop Harry Ramsden's a short distance away.

They got their food and sat down to eat. Then one of them looks up and says "look who it is."

Hendrix and his band are sitting in the restaurant, eating, a couple of tables away.

"Go get his autograph", says one of the four. My parents are too shy, but their friends still have the ticket on them, so they go over and Hendrix signs it.



Cut to now. They still have the signed ticket, framed, and kept very safe. My mum has been kicking herself about this for many years.


Edited by - nathanscribe on 02/08/2009 23:00:57
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Shermock
Bronze Member

Sweden
61 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2009 :  23:12:32  Show Profile  Visit Shermock's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Goran

I listened to some studio Hendrix yesterday, I do that quite often, and was amazed with the layers of guitars that he used so beautifully. He was really creative in the studio, some of his songs took a long time to record, by that time.
I have alway been a great fan of Hendrix, even saw him live when I was 15 here in Sweden.
There was a great Swedish band that Hendrix jammed a lot with called Hansson & Karlsson. That band was very, very different to anything in Sweden (or the world) at that time. Hammond organ and a drummer from the jazz world, that�s it! They played a heavy improvised psychedelic music, really long songs, extremely good in my ears (still).
Hendrix even recorded a song by H&K, Tax free.
But the interesting thing is that a lot of the jams with Hendrix & H&K were recorded on good equipment by a person who worked with H&K. I don�t know if anything has surfaced, I have never heard anything. But in an interview with Janne Karlsson (the drummer) a couple of years ago. he told that there was much music recorded with Hendrix and H&K jamming.

Hansson & Karlsson�s music is highly recommende, for you who downloads "illegal" try to find the "Monument" record. Original vinyls command very high prices...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1VibSgVRbo

Heres a clip of Tax Free.....hansson and karlsson style.
Awesome!!
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The_Doc
Gold Member

United Kingdom
509 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2009 :  19:12:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nathanscribe - that's a brilliant story - I'm so jealous!!

I was probably living in Scunthorpe around that time - if only I had known - I could have dashed over for fish 'n chips at Harry R's - best on the planet!!!

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pawnshop_trash
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USA
603 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2009 :  23:35:19  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zestystrat


Also, depending on which book you read about Jimi, there was a lot of talk with Miles about recording an album. The last book I read (written by the same guy that tore apart Cobain) said that they wanted to do it but Miles wanted a big advance or guarantee or something so it got pushed back - Jimi died b/f it happened.

I can't remember the author but this book was pretty good look at his life before stardom, including his horrible childhood and life on the road with Little Richard and other Chitlin circuit artists.



this is kinda off-topic, but zestystrat (or anyone), which Hendrix book would you recommend to someone who does not own any books about Jimi? I'd like to buy one, but am not sure which book I should try first.

and back on topic, the video I've seen of Isle at Wight (one of his last concerts) was just stunning, as good as (or better than) his performance at Monterey or at Woodstock, IMHO....
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