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Some Weird Sin
Bronze Member

Netherlands
73 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2008 :  16:47:45  Show Profile  Visit Some Weird Sin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The RC-2 did make me go "I wanna have that!", (and I got it) but I see your point.

I also agree with your COSM/Fuzz argument.

To add my own 2c: I really don't see the point of having a compact pedal that emulates e.g. a Bassman: it's never going to sound like a bassman, cause you have to go through your own amp to hear it.

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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2008 :  16:55:12  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tony

In general, they need to completely rethink their compact pedal line. When was the last time you looked at something in the current range and thought "I must have that!!"? The lineup as it stands is completely uninspiring. A couple of times I've looked at it intending to support BOSS and buy something new, but I just can't bring myself to spend the money. The closest I get to buying something new and unmodded is the TR-2, or maybe the looper. Even then, it's just functional stuff.

They need to acknowledge that not everybody wants the same things. While COSM might be ideal for the type of hypothetical jobbing musician who exists mainly in the minds of their marketing guys, most people don't want off-the-shelf sounds. I do think COSM has it's uses, but I prefer stuff that's straightforward in concept, tactile in response and capable of behaving unpredictably.

They should introduce a STRICTLY analogue line of compact effects. With updates of all the classics. Maybe even as part of a higher end range, similar to what Digitech have done with the hardwire series, but infinitely better, because it's BOSS.

There's something really perverse about how they keep slaving away over digital versions of their analogue classics when they could own the market in actual reproductions tomorrow. I mean, a COSM fuzz? An incredibly complex circuit to emulate a few fairly simple circuits. Why?

They also need to push the envelope and come up with things that actually surprise you. That bitcrusher idea was super cool.

EDIT:
Bit harsh that. I did like the PS 5 I had. Not enought to keep it, though.





BOSS - if you are reading this, please see above!

How about a CE-2RI, CS-1RI, VB-2RI ?

Edited by - Laurie on 08/18/2008 17:01:34
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tony
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
142 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2008 :  19:33:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

BOSS - if you are reading this, please see above!



I'd wager they're not.

quote:

How about a CE-2RI, CS-1RI, VB-2RI ?



Totally. Imagine that. With super fancy paint jobs. I think, if they gain ANYTHING from their partnership with Fender it should be the revelation that, like early Fender guitars, early BOSS pedals are now ICONS that can/should be reproduced/refined/improved on, but properly. A digital DM 2 or VB 2 is like the Telecaster mode on a Variax guitar - crap and pointless. Simply because no digital version could ever include everything in it's parameters that that analogue original might be capable of under all circumstances and with all players.


Edited to say: I do come down a bit hard on BOSS sometimes. I think they're lovely really. Particularly after the DD7 thread.

Edited by - tony on 08/18/2008 22:57:11
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tony
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
142 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2008 :  19:37:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Some Weird Sin

The RC-2 did make me go "I wanna have that!", (and I got it) but I see your point.

I also agree with your COSM/Fuzz argument.

To add my own 2c: I really don't see the point of having a compact pedal that emulates e.g. a Bassman: it's never going to sound like a bassman, cause you have to go through your own amp to hear it.





I don't get those either. They might be cool for going direct, I suppose, but that's about it. Actually, I did say the looper. I think the RC 2 is really cute and probably unbelievably useful.
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the-destructor
Silver Member

USA
334 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2008 :  02:19:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
originally posted by Laurie

There's something really perverse about how they keep slaving away over digital versions of their analogue classics when they could own the market in actual reproductions tomorrow. I mean, a COSM fuzz? An incredibly complex circuit to emulate a few fairly simple circuits. Why?

They also need to push the envelope and come up with things that actually surprise you. That bitcrusher idea was super cool.

WOOF, WOOF.I hear ya barking big dawg. I'm in total harmony with you.
T-D
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2008 :  09:08:41  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I was playing around with my MD-2 and the notion of an EXP jack on a dirt pedal used in conjunction with an expression pedal to control gain would be sweet.
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ESPImperium
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
132 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2008 :  23:25:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A few more:

A twin channel Overdrive, like what the SD-2 was, but like a SD-1, but with a EXP button to switch from light OD to more OD, also a switch to switch between Asymetrical and Symetrical clipping as well on this pedal.

A better phaser than the PH-3.

A analogue range of effects, could be modren versions of classic pedals or reissues of classic pedals, say 8 or 10 or so to start with.
OD-1
SG-1
CE-2
PH-1 or PH-1r
SP-1
BF-2
CS-1 or CS-2
DM-2 or DM-3
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DarrinPA
Silver Member

USA
221 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2008 :  00:56:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Pn-3 so it would have stereo in and out plus and tempo/exp pedal in to set the tempo. But have the better sound of a Tr-2.

This may have already been said but I didn't read every page.
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rkid67
Copper Member

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2008 :  00:15:41  Show Profile  Send rkid67 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
An Orange AD30 pedal. Of course in orange.
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2008 :  13:19:30  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rkid67

An Orange AD30 pedal. Of course in orange.



for Orange 'Legend Series'.

for its chance of happening.
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rkid67
Copper Member

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2008 :  19:24:58  Show Profile  Send rkid67 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Boss should create 'Classic Album Pedals' that capture the many sounds/effects from some great albums.
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Potter V8
Bronze Member

Brazil
106 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2008 :  21:52:39  Show Profile  Click to see Potter V8's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah, or maybe some signature series like Digitech did. Each signatue pedal with some sounds from some artists' albums...

Tht would be great, man!

Potter V8
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jwdefoor
Copper Member

USA
12 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2008 :  19:19:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One simple request would be that any Boss pedal with stereo outputs would always come with stereo inputs. No exceptions!

It is frustrating to have to sacrifice one pedal's stereo effect on account of you wanting to add another of their "stereo out only" pedals to the chain.

This kind of practicality isn't rocket science is it? Oh, I forgot. In my company's elevators, the buttons are arranged differently on the left and right sides of the door. Only an engineer would think that is unimportant. So as a result, people are pressing the wrong buttons all the time because they've memorized where the buttons ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE assuming them to be the same. Sigh.

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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2008 :  07:35:32  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwdefoor

One simple request would be that any Boss pedal with stereo outputs would always come with stereo inputs. No exceptions!





I second that.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2008 :  08:22:47  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
welcome to the forum... i would agree with the stereo inputs as well...i think i fairness that they do now with a lot of their newer stereo pedals especially the twin compact ones.....
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