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visserman
Platinum Member
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 Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:33:17
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Hi there,
Just wondering if you could if it is a Jap by looking at the place where the powersupply socket is? So right at the bottom it must be a Jap, right? Another one, the box, coloured on the side or white on the side.
Do not feel too comfortable opening up the pedals, unless one of you tells me that it is just a case of lifting the backplate and looking at the pcb board to see if you can find any inscriptions there.
I have become increasingly interested in hearing some Jap. DS1's, I bought mine new last year [summer of 04] do like the sound, but can well imagine how a Jap would sound.
Recently receiced a TW1, now those are all Japs eh? I have the silverscrew one, plugging into this one was a lovely experience, sounds very warm......................
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sirlemonhead
Bronze Member
Ireland
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 15:40:28
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Why not just read it off the sticker underneath? |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2005 : 17:03:53
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We've been discussing this a couple of time already but I'll try to summarise a few of the points here.
The power socket is not a good indication of the country of origin. The SD-1 is still made today with the old style socket and it's been made in Taiwan for almost 20 years already.
The boxes changed from coloured sides to white sides after the move to Taiwan took place. I have "made in Taiwan"-pedals with coloured sides but there may be also be Made in Japan pedals with white sides because production was gradually phased over to Taiwan. Some pedals were still made in Japan until the early 90s.
The PCB is rarely a good source of information. Most of the time it only contains a couple of numbers and the model designation. In some cases the country has been printed on the PCB but so far I haven't seen any of these (and I've opened a lot of pedals).
The TW-1 was only made in Japan so there's no doubt about that one.
In the end sirlemonhead is spot on. The bottom sticker is the best place to look for this info. |
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 17:34:51
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Thanks Bossarea, that is a great overview. I have just spotted an SD1 with a coloured box on the side, but it is made in Taiwan. I am aware about what you mentioned about the powersocket, have read a bit on the forum and it made me have a closer look at some of my own boxes, and thinking about the dates.
About the stickers at the back of the pedal, do we know if dealers fiddle with these things, as we all know that the Jap. ones are more desireable. I know it may be easier to spot these things when you have the actual pedal in your hands, but on Ebay, with a dodgy image, it is another story eh?
Cheers.
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 10:12:29
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| On occation I'm sure there are pedals being sold with the wrong bottom plate. This will of course lower the value of the Japan-pedal the bottom plate came from in the first place so I don't think there's much to earn from this kind of fraud. |
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 11:50:16
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Yep I can see your point Bossarea, people may even create their own backplates with copied stickers which do give the idea that you are dealing with a Jap pedal. I know it would take a lot of time for people to do this, but it could.
Thinking about the whole thing with Strats and what people can change on them, and really you would not be able to tell, unless you took the thing apart and knew what to look for.
Trust is the word here, but also being careful and sensible and using common sense in terms of what you are willing to pay for a Jap pedal.
cheers |
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