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Bassman 100
Copper Member
Ireland
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 Posted - 10/08/2008 : 20:00:07
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| Hi new to here. 1st post. Did a search, can't find any listing for a comprehensive list of BOSS (only Boss) all analogue pedals. |
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sp-1
Platinum Member
Germany
1454 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2008 : 20:12:23
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Welcome  I'm sure bossarea can help you out here  |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2008 : 22:06:40
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Hi Bassman and welcome to the forum.
I've never put the analog list together before so there might be some mistakes below. Here's what I think it looks like
AC-2
AW-2
BD-2
BF-2
BF-2B
CE-2
CE-2B
CE-3
CEB-3
CE-5*
CH-1*
CS-1
CS-2
CS-3
DC-2
DF-2
DM-2
DM-3
DS-1
DS-2
EH-2
FT-2
FZ-2
FZ-3
GE-6
GE-7
GE-7B
GEB-7
HF-2
HM-2
HM-3
LM-2
LM-2B
LMB-3
LS-2
MD-2
MT-2
MZ-2+
NF-1
NS-2
OC-2
OD-1
OD-2
OD-2r
OD-3
ODB-3
OS-2
PH-1
PH-1r
PH-2
PN-2
PQ-3B
PQ-4
PSM-5
PW-2
SD-1
SD-2
SG-1
SP-1
TR-2
TW-1
VB-2
XT-2
* both analog and digital versions exist
+ part analog, part digital
I'm in doubt about the CEB-3. It might have had the same changes made to it as the CE-5 and CH-1.
Maybe the OC-3 should be in the list as well. I've always thought it was digital but it tracks as bad as any analog unit so I'm not so sure any longer.
Edit: Completely forgot the analog DC-2 so added it in the list above. |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2008 : 22:19:01
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| I have the "SMD" version of the CEB-3. Not actually sure if it's digital or SMD analogue... will look tonight. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2008 : 22:46:52
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Welcome to the forum...... |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2008 : 06:10:25
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Hi Bassman 100
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
The MZ-2 is a hybrid Analog & digital
The Distortions are analog, as best as I can trace out.
The chorus-delays are digital.
It's a twin board pedal, there are some pics of mine, in the pedal internals thread.
Look on Page-4
Regards Dr. Bob |
Edited by - Dr. Bob on 10/10/2008 12:30:58 |
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Bassman 100
Copper Member
Ireland
12 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2008 : 16:50:22
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Hi Folks,
Many thanks for the warm welcome & this time consuming information. I really appreciate it. My initial intention is to collect analogue Chorus, Reverb, Delay, Compressor and
Blues pedals. A selection that would be best suited to
Acoustic Guitar,
Electric Guitar,
Keyboards
& Bass.
Have equipment will travel! Play all instruments and I知 a lover of the warm clean deep analogue sound. Clean jazz type player I suppose. So any further recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
As we say this side of the World, "your some man for one man."
or Woman of course !
Regards, Bassman 100
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Bassman 100
Copper Member
Ireland
12 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2008 : 18:02:57
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Hi Bossarea,
Bassman here: If I can focus on one sentence of your fantastic comprehensive list:
"Maybe the OC-3 should be in the list as well. I've always thought it was digital but it tracks as bad as any analogue unit, so I'm not so sure any longer."
1.) Could you explain tracking to me please?
2.) By this; is it your opinion that digital is they way forward and I am dreaming of the past been better than the present? I just thought because analogue is more expensive to manufacture it would be better sounding than digital. For example, I find the ME50 grating to the ears, compare to individual pedals. Your extensive list appears to be by majority analogue, therefore is my opinion accurate? I知 only starting my collection, so I have no knowledge other than my memories of the early 1980痴.
I had a Silver Roland Cube Keyboard Amp back then that I would give my eye teeth to have again, but again it may not have been as good as I thought. Memories can be a inaccurate. I知 interested in your views.
Regards, Eamon
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2008 : 18:33:39
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Originally posted by Bassman 100
1.) Could you explain tracking to me please?
With tracking I mean a pedals ability to accurately detect the pitch of the incoming sound. This is especially important for pedals that does pitch shifting. The OC-2/3 isn't particlarly good at this. Ideally you hit a note and the pedal generates an additional note one octave lower. If the input frequenzy is perfectly detected, the additional sound will be generated at half the frequenzy. If it's not detected correctly, the additional note may be out of tune or become just noise. Typically you will need to use a very clean input sound and high action on the guitar to get decent tracking on the OC-2/3. The digital PS-5 can also be used as an octaver. With this pedal, tracking is much less of a problem. Since it was released before the OC-3, my thoughts are that the OC-3 might be analog.
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Originally posted by Bassman 100
2.) By this; is it your opinion that digital is they way forward and I am dreaming of the past been better than the present? I just thought because analogue is more expensive to manufacture it would be better sounding than digital. For example, I find the ME50 grating to the ears, compare to individual pedals. Your extensive list appears to be by majority analogue, therefore is my opinion accurate? I知 only starting my collection, so I have no knowledge other than my memories of the early 1980痴.
I had a Silver Roland Cube Keyboard Amp back then that I would give my eye teeth to have again, but again it may not have been as good as I thought. Memories can be a inaccurate. I知 interested in your views.
Regards, Eamon
I think digital units are good for some things and analog for others.
In the 70s, everyone went for transistor designs and the valves were considered outdated. It didn't take long until people discovered that the valve amps sounded pretty damned good and the transistor amps really weren't so great. It didn't mean that the transistor was dead. It had its uses too and most people using valve amps have found that a little solid state booster in front of it, can do wonders.
The same thing happened when digital effects were introduced. I can remember a rehersal in the late 80s when everyone in my band was laughing at how bad the DM-2 was compared to a DD-3. What we did was run vocals through it and listen to the echos. Obviously the DM-2's echos quickly distorted while the DD-3's echoes remained close to the original. It didn't occur to us at the time that different rules applied to guitar sounds and today most people prefer the warm DM-2 sound to the digital sound of the DD series.
Different songs demand different sounds and in some circumstances I think the digital pedals are better. If I want to play Inxs style riffs I prefer the clear digital delay or reverb sound but if I play a blues I want analog sounds all the way. I think the future will have room for both digital and analog equipment. |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2008 : 20:03:38
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mystify.... mystify... me.. padabpa padabpa...
mystify.... mystify.. meeeeee
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2008 : 23:31:29
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| Defo get your hands on a CE-2 if you want the big analogue warmth thing in a chorus pedal..... they pop up time to time in the buy and sell,i was lucky enough to pick one up a while back for 115 euro with a HM-2 and a beringher copy of the BD-2 thrown in...... there is a BF-2 flanger in it at the moment for 40 euro if your interested...... |
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coelacanth
Copper Member
New Zealand
4 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 03:25:02
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| I'm afraid not all BOSS overdrives/distortions are analogue. I heard DN-2 Dyna Drive is digital. |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 04:43:51
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Originally posted by coelacanth
I'm afraid not all BOSS overdrives/distortions are analogue. I heard DN-2 Dyna Drive is digital.
So is the ML-2. (and while not strictly distortion pedals, so are the FDR-1 and FBM-1) |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 12:29:12
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I think the Doc was just referring to the MZ-2
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The MZ-2 is a hybrid Analog & digital
The Distortions are analog, as be as I can trace out.
The chorus-delays are digital.
It's a twin board pedal, there are some pics of mine, in the pedal internals thread.
Look on Page-4
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 17:00:54
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| OC-3 tracks a bit better in Poly mode. |
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exodia333
Silver Member
USA
273 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2008 : 21:42:23
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When was the last time we had an analog pedal  huh |
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BOSS (only) Analogue Pedals
