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Roger
Bronze Member
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 Posted - 01/01/2006 : 00:31:43
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Does anyone know if these sound any different?
Happy 2006 New Year to All!!! |
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phostenix
Gold Member
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Posted - 01/01/2006 : 18:32:14
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Does it matter? 
Sorry, I've never really been a compression guy.
I don't even have a schematic for the 3, so I can't give any clues from that, either.
Sorry.
Grace and peace.
Steve
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Roger
Bronze Member
USA
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Posted - 01/02/2006 : 05:49:04
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Only to a Compressor fanatic like myself.
Thanks anyway Steve.
Regards,
Roger
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phostenix
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Posted - 01/02/2006 : 06:09:17
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What type of things are you using compression for? I know the country guys love them, and I guess Phish made them popular as well, but other than providing a limiter in front of a chorus pedal, I've not found a place that I had to have one.
I think a lot of effects seem unnecessary until you find out where they really shine. Then you can't live without them. 
Enlighten me.
Grace and peace,
Steve
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 01/02/2006 : 07:08:34
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I've seen schematics of all 3 Boss CS-series compact compressors, but they're so different that I'm not sure if the schematics alone could help answer your question....
the 3rd effect pedal I ever bought was a used MIT CS-3, which I employed strictly for DI recording of bass guitar (at the time, I didn't have a bass amp). that CS-3 was sold soon thereafter, and remains the only Boss pedal I've ever sold. suffice to say, I'll never buy another MIT CS-3.
however, I've never directly A/B'd MIJ/MIT CS-3s, so I can't really answer your question. I mainly use tube amps for guitar (which creates a natural compression -- really no need for a compressor), and now I have other pedals (and a bass amp!) for bass. that said, other threads in this forum may offer suggestions:
CS-2 vs. MIJ CS-3:
http://bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=41
CS-1, CS-2, CS-3:
http://bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=184
it appears that MIJ >> MIT for the CS-3, but a CS-2 might be better than a MIJ CS-3; however, if possible try out both. regardless of what anyone here says, your own ears will be your best judge.... |
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Roger
Bronze Member
USA
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Posted - 01/03/2006 : 19:50:39
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Originally posted by phostenix
What type of things are you using compression for? I know the country guys love them, and I guess Phish made them popular as well, but other than providing a limiter in front of a chorus pedal, I've not found a place that I had to have one.
I think a lot of effects seem unnecessary until you find out where they really shine. Then you can't live without them.
Enlighten me.
Grace and peace,
Steve
OK I'll take my best shot...especially since you continually enlighten so many of us  .
I would have to say that compression has become one of my favorite and most essential effects...second only to Dist/ Overdrive and Delay. Also, after owning the CS-1, CS-2, and CS-3 I'd have to say that if I could only have one, my MIT CS-3 is my favorite. Did I just say something sacreligious?
It's pretty simple...For Clean sound: Set Level and Sustain to about 2:00 and hit the strings hard (mostly small Chords or arpegiated rhythms) with a very aggresive attack.
For Overdrive sounds: Place in front of your favorite Overdrive Pedal (in my case a MIJ SD-1) Set Level and Sustain to about 2:00 and play lead lines or sustaining solos.
For me, the Signal Chain that works best is: Compressor>Overdrive>everything else>Ending with Delay. I know that typically engineers would use the compressor at the end, but for this application I need it to be at the beginning.
Regards,
Roger
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Indyguitarist
Copper Member
USA
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Posted - 01/20/2006 : 16:13:10
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Originally posted by Roger
Does anyone know if these sound any different?
Happy 2006 New Year to All!!!
The only difference in them is the ones that are marked aca adaptors and psa adaptors. This is because the aca is a 12v adaptor where the psa adaptor is a 9v. The aca adaptor based pedals are dropping the voltage down via one resistor and one diode. Simply jumper them and they are the same pedal.
The cs-2 and cs-1 are different type of circuts, with the cs-2 being a dynacomp circuit.
Take care,
Brian
http://www.indyguitarist.com/
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visserman
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Posted - 01/20/2006 : 18:20:24
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Roger: I can see why you love your Taiwan CS-3.
I have a CS-1 and an Aphex puchfactory, both of those sound subtle, the Aphex is probably more versatile and of better quality than the CS-1, but then it was more expansive as well.
None of those can get the colours of the CS-3. I do not use compression a great deal, when I do I use the effect for colour rather than as a "problemsolver" in your chain.
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Roger
Bronze Member
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Posted - 01/20/2006 : 19:36:52
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Thanks for the feedback Brian, I didn't think there would be a big difference.
Visserman,
You got it. "colours of the CS-3" is a good way to describe it. Now being a proud owner of all three Models...CS-1, CS-2 and CS-3 I Like them all a lot, but the CS-3 seems to be the most versatile to me.
Regards,
Roger |
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visserman
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Posted - 01/21/2006 : 18:39:34
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Roger, I think what you have discovered about the later version of the boss compressors applies to most of the modern versions of the older pedals, most of them are more versatile that their predecessors.
Examples?? BF-3,PH-3,CE-5 and the DD-6. It seems this is a trend just looking at the new Acoustic Simulator pedal.
Not saying the newer pedals SOUND better, but they are more versatile and offer you more bucks for your money. |
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Indyguitarist
Copper Member
USA
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Posted - 01/24/2006 : 02:25:59
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Originally posted by visserman
Roger, I think what you have discovered about the later version of the boss compressors applies to most of the modern versions of the older pedals, most of them are more versatile that their predecessors.
Examples?? BF-3,PH-3,CE-5 and the DD-6. It seems this is a trend just looking at the new Acoustic Simulator pedal.
Not saying the newer pedals SOUND better, but they are more versatile and offer you more bucks for your money.
I'd say in *some* situations, but not all. For example, the dd-5 is generally sought after more than the dd-6, and the ce-2 (and ce-1) are circuits that many other companies have cloned, yet they still sound so warm and thick...NONE of the new boss chorus pedals come close IMO.
Also, the bf-2 is known by some to have a 'warmer' tone. :)
Brian
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