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DWBH
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Portugal
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Posted - 05/10/2009 :  19:47:37  Show Profile  Click to see DWBH's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have an RV-3 that, when turned on/off, produces a slight interruption in sound.
If i'm playing something and I turn the pedal on, the sound is cut, for a fraction of a second. This happens both turning the pedal on and off.

Apparently this doesn't happen to all RV-3 pedals.
Is there a way to fix this?

DWBH
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Portugal
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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  17:27:14  Show Profile  Click to see DWBH's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
bump?
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  18:15:10  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hah! I just posted that mine is the opposite... slight bump up in sound as it is switched 9as opposed to a slight dip as you are experienceing - they are almost certainly related). i think i am on the track of what is causing it - will let you know if i get mine fixed.
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sp-1
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Germany
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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  18:16:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DWBH

I have an RV-3 that, when turned on/off, produces a slight interruption in sound.
If i'm playing something and I turn the pedal on, the sound is cut, for a fraction of a second. This happens both turning the pedal on and off.

Apparently this doesn't happen to all RV-3 pedals.
Is there a way to fix this?



Mine does the same
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  18:56:43  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it's an easy (but delicate) fix... I'll post details if i can get mine sorted out over the weekend.
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DWBH
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Portugal
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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  19:52:00  Show Profile  Click to see DWBH's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've never heard of that 'boost' problem, but most people I've talked to (that have/had an RV-3) had the same problem as mine has.
I'm not sure whether it's that easy. The switch is connected to a chip, not a flip-flop circuit.

Edited by - DWBH on 07/03/2009 19:52:38
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  20:17:04  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DWBH
I'm not sure whether it's that easy. The switch is connected to a chip, not a flip-flop circuit.


Yeah... but I know how this thing is put together ... I think I can say "trust me"

I've traced/watched the switching drive of the FETS on the scope and it's very straightforward.

It looks to be the rise/fall times of the switching FETS. The reason mine is "inverted' to yours is that I changed one of the FETs for a non-standard (the original one was damaged).

My current theory is that, for mine, one FET rises faster than the other falls, giving a "bump" in volume for maybe quarter of a second. If the opposte happens (one falls faster than the other rises) you will get a "dip" in volume. This rise/fall time is dependent on the time constant of the external components (not the FET), so can be fixed.

I have to fix mine, so once I sus it out fully and have it working properly I'll post on here.

My expectation is that to fix the dip will require changing a surface mount resistor (or capacitor) - delicate, but doable.

of course, i may be completely wrong, and if that's the case I let you know
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DWBH
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Portugal
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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  21:09:49  Show Profile  Click to see DWBH's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's not really a dip in volume, because when the pedal is on, the volume is the same as in bypass. It's just a small hiccup when it's switched on/off.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  23:40:26  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DWBH

It's not really a dip in volume, because when the pedal is on, the volume is the same as in bypass. It's just a small hiccup when it's switched on/off.


Yes - that's exactly it. A "dip" when it switches.

Edited by - Laurie on 07/03/2009 23:40:38
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DWBH
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Portugal
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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  23:42:26  Show Profile  Click to see DWBH's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah. Come to think of it, I can say it's a dip.
:P
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Ward
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Australia
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  01:57:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah well, there you go, I just posted about this "dip" in the other thread. I wouldn't call it a dip though, it's a definate and total lack of sound for a fraction of a second, maybe I'm just not hip with the lingo, it will be interesting if Laurie's does this after he fixes his problem.

Edited by - Ward on 07/04/2009 01:59:12
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