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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  08:00:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was in a music store last week and got heavy GAS by a Danelectro Baritone 63 Reissue;
http://home.insightbb.com/~blackriderguitars/danelectro.jpg

Saturday I took a Yamaha guitar with me to the store and traded it in (I have way too many guitars) for a gold coloured baritone.
And this is a very good sounding instrument for sure, instant Spaghetti Western and Twin Peaks. The scale length is 30�, and the strings are thicker than a standard guitar, of course.
It is played just like a regular guitar, but is tuned in B the first and last string, so nothing new to learn there. Other then remember that the familiar open chords do have a different �name�, when you play an E it is actually a B-chord.
These baritones go way deep in the tone spectra, not as deep as a bass, and even when playing on the treble string high on the fretboard thre is a very special sound to it, I really like that.
If you have some money left try a baritone, I highly recommend them.

verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2009 :  13:40:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Baris are a lot of fun.. sometimes annoying to find strings for!

Another weird one is the Fender Bass VI - which is a super-long scale one-octave down 6-string not-a-bass guitar.

7-string and 8-string etc are also interesting, but more of a learning curve, and less practical if you're not going to use it all the time.
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Dirk
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Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2009 :  16:55:01  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Besides playing bass, Billy Sheehan also plays a lot of 12-string baritone guitar.
Check out some of his songs on his solo albums, "Compression", "Cosmic Troubadour" and "Holy Cow".

He uses this instrument, a Yamaha custom shop Bajo Sexto:
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2009 :  17:02:14  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've been thinking about one of these Dano baritones for a while now......
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silvertone6120
Gold Member

USA
609 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2009 :  17:13:04  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My ex-wife bought me this one in 1999:



I've dropped it to E-to-E tuning, an octave below standard guitar tuning. It's great for tic-tac style playing and the aforementioned Spaghetti Western tone. I've also recorded it in place of a regular electric bass at times.

I enjoy playing it, and I actually wish there were more applications for it.
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member

USA
603 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2009 :  19:50:44  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I dedicated a cheap/old regular-scale 6-string guitar to "baritone" tuning (down 1.5 steps to C#, like Tony Iommi ca. Black Sabbath Vol. 4), and it's a lot of fun. but even though I have heavier-gauge strings on it (I think the low C# is a .054), the tuning stability isn't ideal. you really need to have a light touch on the strings for best results, or just buy a proper baritone guitar.
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nion
Silver Member

USA
164 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2009 :  03:28:33  Show Profile  Visit nion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I keep one of my SGs in Drop B and the other in Drop A... neither are Baritone. Both have D'addario XL 11 strings on them.
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Heart and Soul
Silver Member

USA
369 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2009 :  03:41:09  Show Profile  Visit Heart and Soul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i'd love to get a baritone...Dano or Jag i don't care, no into 7/8 strings though...i've been playing with some very bass heavy frequency lately and it would be ideal to get one...

then i remember that i have no money...student life......

but it's def. in my plans to get one at some point...maybe sooner than later...i think the problem is i pick up pedals here and there instead of waiting around to make a big purchase...GAS ruins everything sometimes...haha...

Edited by - Heart and Soul on 03/10/2009 03:43:23
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nion
Silver Member

USA
164 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2009 :  03:57:55  Show Profile  Visit nion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Heart and Soul

i'd love to get a baritone...Dano or Jag i don't care, no into 7/8 strings though...i've been playing with some very bass heavy frequency lately and it would be ideal to get one...

then i remember that i have no money...student life......

but it's def. in my plans to get one at some point...maybe sooner than later...i think the problem is i pick up pedals here and there instead of waiting around to make a big purchase...GAS ruins everything sometimes...haha...



I really need a new guitar. I've been playing on shitty epiphone SGs for years now... switching back and forth between them you can REALLY hear the difference in quality.

They both need to be completely rewired with new pickups, but I'm not the man for the job.
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Right Foot Boss
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USA
881 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2009 :  11:12:45  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
OMG! Stop talking about baritones. I've been suppressing this GAS for two years now. The wife says we have to sell the house before I get get another instrument.

The Fender Bass VI has a 30.3" scale (and is $2000 dollars over my budget)
The Schecter Hellcat VI has a 30" scale
The Fender Jajuar Bass VI is 28.5" scale
And both the Fender Jaguar Baritone HH and the Fender Sub-Sonic have a scale of 27"

Each one is top on my GAS list for my next guitar purchase. But before that...

...anyone have a suggestion for a great baritone amp?
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Heart and Soul
Silver Member

USA
369 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2009 :  19:37:57  Show Profile  Visit Heart and Soul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Rightfoot is right...all this talk is unhealthy...please, end thread...
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sneaky103
Copper Member

USA
25 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2009 :  02:57:24  Show Profile  Visit sneaky103's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's a bigger problem for you all...I built a steel-guitar amp for a guy two years ago that was basically a souped-up Fender Twin circuit driving a efficient 15" speaker...INCREDIBLE tones out of it!

We hooked the speaker up to a constant freq. sweeper that cycled through about 20Hz-10kHz every 5 minutes and left it running for about a week (that added about $40 to our power bill) and that really helped break in the cone.

That amp would make any baritone sound incredible! Maybe I should make a baritone amp?

Goto my MySpace page for a Fender Twin copy I built that's similar to the circuit we put in the steelguitar amp...

www.myspace.com/illwaudiocircuits
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member

USA
603 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2009 :  18:56:42  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Right Foot Boss

...anyone have a suggestion for a great baritone amp?



this is just anecdotal, but I used to know a death metal guitarist who tuned down to B, and he favored the Peavey 5150 series of amps. Kim Thayil of Soundgarden (also no stranger to tuning down) used the 5150 series' predecessor, the Peavey VTM120, before he switched to Mesa/Boogie.

but regardless of what amp you choose, you need to make sure your cab's speakers are suited to lower frequencies, as sneaky103 mentions above.
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nion
Silver Member

USA
164 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2009 :  02:36:41  Show Profile  Visit nion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pawnshop_trash

quote:
Originally posted by Right Foot Boss

...anyone have a suggestion for a great baritone amp?



this is just anecdotal, but I used to know a death metal guitarist who tuned down to B, and he favored the Peavey 5150 series of amps. Kim Thayil of Soundgarden (also no stranger to tuning down) used the 5150 series' predecessor, the Peavey VTM120, before he switched to Mesa/Boogie.

but regardless of what amp you choose, you need to make sure your cab's speakers are suited to lower frequencies, as sneaky103 mentions above.



I play in B and have a B-52 and a Peavey cab, sounds great.
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Pedalhead
Silver Member

USA
245 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2009 :  06:51:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A nice baritone made for Ian MacKaye of Fugazi http://www.crestonguitars.com/gallery/detail.php?gid=83
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