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Foulacy
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zerksies
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USA
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 Posted - 01/15/2010 : 13:28:00
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Radioheading
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United Kingdom
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aaronharmon
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USA
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aaronharmon
Silver Member
USA
271 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 15:03:52
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Originally posted by neala
Hi all
Maybe I am missing the point here but if the tuner is that accurate unless you have the perfect guitar that never drifts as well as %100 intonation wont this tell you tht you are allways out of tune?. If any one knows of such a guitar please let me know as I would like to buy one now.
It doesn't appear that way in the videos. Any well made and properly set up instrument should be correctly intonated etc. I have a U.S. Jackson with an OFR that I can dive bomb until the strings are slack and at one point, I didn't have to touch anything other than the fine tuners for a whole year. |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 15:56:38
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I'm with Neala on this, maybe locking tuners are more stable, but for most people with regular tuning keys, the perfect intonated guitar simply doesn't exist.
Off course it's good and usefull to buy a good, accurate tuner, nothing wrong with that, but still real tuning goes by ear, not machine.
IMO, tuning is more of an art than a science.
Because of the way a stringed instrument is build, and especially how the frets are aligned to each other, there's no way it can be perfectly in tune on all frets, on all strings, in all positions whilst playing all chords.
Only on fretless instruments, where one can determine it's own pitch, is it possible to play correctly in tune.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 01/15/2010 : 16:08:00
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Hi aaron & Guys
The PolyTune.
Personally I think it's a great idea,
and a great product, I'm betting they sell heaps of them.
I know there will be one soon in my bunch of goodies.
It will be interesting to here how long he battery life is on these.
And how they survive on the road.
Regards Dr. Bob 
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Ollie
Gold Member
United Kingdom
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markymarc1979
Copper Member
United Kingdom
46 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 16:25:57
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Surely this will be �150~ plus...
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Ollie
Gold Member
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 16:32:14
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Radioheading
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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neala
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
66 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 17:39:03
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Thanks Dirk
i have made my living as a proffessional guitar tech for over 20 years now with a long list of well known artists and it is always real breath of fresh air to hear somebody else say that about intonation. it is true that there is no such thing as the perfectly in tune guitar. It is also true that you can spend hours or even weeks setting the intonation on somebody else's guitar but the moment you give it to them because of a different playing style it will be different again. I think the secret with intonation is all about tolerences. |
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aaronharmon
Silver Member
USA
271 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 17:39:04
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Originally posted by Dirk
"there's no way it can be perfectly in tune on all frets, on all strings, in all positions whilst playing all chords."
I agree 100% this statement. However, I don't tune "all frets on all strings in all positions." I only tune to the open position (or the 12 fret harmonic to check intonation)
I completely disagree about it being "more art than science" though. I would say it is 100% science. A4 = 440 oscillations per second and has a wave length of 78.4 centimeters in western music.
Anything that doesn't have a root of Ao = 27.5 Hz (27.5, 55, 110, 220, 440, 880, etc) simply isn't A
A machine can do this better than a man any day of the week.
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nosi0
Gold Member
Netherlands
511 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 18:01:07
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I just posted this on the non-boss-gear section before i saw this, as this wasn't the section i would have check to see if somebody posted it already. heres another link:
http://www.sonicstate.com/amped/2010/01/15/wnamm10-the-most-revolutionary-product-of-namm-2010/
it says 85 euros as the price.
about the tuning issues its not the tuners thats the problem, its the frets. the position of the frets is nearly always wrong. the only way to get perfect notes all over your fretboard is to have a True Temperament system and i can assure you those are very hard to get used to. i tried one of my frieds for a while its just not natural to me.
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Radioheading
Silver Member
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 18:12:11
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Originally posted by nosi0
I just posted this on the non-boss-gear section before i saw this, as this wasn't the section i would have check to see if somebody posted it already. heres another link:
http://www.sonicstate.com/amped/2010/01/15/wnamm10-the-most-revolutionary-product-of-namm-2010/
it says 85 euros as the price.
about the tuning issues its not the tuners thats the problem, its the frets. the position of the frets is nearly always wrong. the only way to get perfect notes all over your fretboard is to have a True Temperament system and i can assure you those are very hard to get used to. i tried one of my frieds for a while its just not natural to me.
I seen a video of Steve Vai trying out those frets on YouTube... Will try conjure the link. |
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TU-3 further behind the powercurve already?
Any idea on price?
