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Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2006 :  15:48:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I LOVE CASH CONVERTERS!

They have them here in Virginia. Best Chain of Pawnshops Ever
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phostenix
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USA
754 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2006 :  16:06:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice.
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svengali
Bronze Member

Australia
111 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2009 :  11:19:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello bosspedallers

i think its in the caps.

the metal screw ds1's ( and others...ce2 etc.. ) have ' green drop caps'..(theres 8 of em... interstage??) and the later pedals with the same chip dont.

its these caps which make the earlier pedals sound less compressed, more open, and more ' real '.

ive posted before on this before from memory and im even more convinced now than i was then as i have procured more older ss pedals and done more comparisons.

Interestingly i recently compared two 8 pin od1's and couldnt work out why one sounded ' better ' than the other.
the pedals were identical in age and components.

i mean i really was confused. I can hear the differences in these pedals quite easily.

It turns out the pots ( level- overdrive ) on the one that sounded ' worse ' were 15 percent lower value ( defective? ).

i actually went to the trouble of swapping everything over except the pots and bingo...the ' worse ' one sounded...' better '.

Edited by - svengali on 12/14/2009 12:17:20
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svengali
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Australia
111 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2009 :  11:24:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i should have mentioned in my post that i have a really nice ds 1 batch number 9300 silver screw, and a later MIT pedal with the same chip.

they actually sound quiet different to me.

again the earlier one sounds more natural, less compression however they do have the same bite.

i get awesome sound with these pedals by running them into a tube preamp and then into a large solid state power amp.

See the tube output stage of a guitar amp compresses the sound to much...jesus christ on a bicycle these sound good through ss power amps...
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2009 :  08:13:34  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi svengali
Interesting observation.

I have a MIT I picked up in Ballarat for a flat $50au.
Tt sounds fabulous, & it's like no other DS-1 that I have,
it's become my go to pedal, fro when I need that distortion sound.

I've loaned it out a few times to other astute players,
& yes it's always a bit of tug or war to get it back.

I do have a cherished SS DS-1 as well. but she's in retirement now.

Regards Dr. Bob
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Right Foot Boss
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USA
881 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2009 :  06:14:54  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I know it has been brought up before, but isn't there a MIT version of the DS-1 that is supposed to sound really harsh? I think it is from the early 90's if memory is correct.
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