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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
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ronster
Gold Member
Australia
645 Posts |
 Posted - 04/03/2007 : 02:21:40
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WOW!  I can't believe how much they are going for! |
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tomwest
Silver Member
United Kingdom
436 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2007 : 02:44:35
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| For me the Nazareth aspect would reduce the value, I'm not a fan of 3 pickup Les Pauls anyway. Plus, vintage means NOTHING, aside from old, they're no better than your run of the mill modern day equivalent. |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 04/03/2007 : 03:25:08
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^^^i agree that vintage isnt "better" because whos to say what sounds better than each individual player. its all preference
but to say that new modern guitars can or do sound like Fenders or Gibsons from the 60s/70s is going out on a limb. i have yet to play a convincing Strat or Les Paul reissue with the feel, tone and mojo of a real vintage one. the truth is that EVERY component on an old guitar ages, all at different rates from different factors (temperature, humidity, hell even how your pickups are wound), and all this affects the overall tone of the instrument. an instrument that has been through temperature change and used and abused for 30 years goes through natural changes that CANNOT be replicated. there are processes to try to replicate the age process, and some get you close in ways, but theres no real substitute for a real VINTAGE guitar. and for the record, Yes i do agree that prices for vintage instruments are extremely outrageous.
i guess a lot also depends on what kind of music you play too. if you plug in to 14 pedals and crank the gain to 11, im sure a reissue and an original would sound the same.
i actually find the age process more noticeable in acoustics. most acoustics seem to sound best to me if they have at least 5 years behind them.
im not one of those doods that preaches about vintage gear being the only way to go and talk about "organic tone" for 2 hours. i own my fair share of "modern" guitars too and love belting out the metal with my flying V and Jackson 
just DONT get me started on tube vs. Solid State
oh and i agree that Gibsons with 3 humbuckers look like somebodys ass. |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2007 : 07:12:50
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In regards to vintage, I can't remember the exact quote, but Roy Buchananon pretty much stated that newer guitars are often better than the vintage models...He made the switch from an early-50s Tele to a mid-80s one...While it is a matter of personal preference, if a guitar legend like that makes a bold statement like that (I will look up the quote), then it must be thought about with some great consideration...
Its kind of like real estate though, some people prefer older houses, some prefer newer ones, and once they have their mind set, its hard to get them to prefer something else.... |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2007 : 08:20:16
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I have played a 1959 Custom many times as my best friend have one since about 20 years.
It has a lot of mojo of course but as it�s an old instrument with low frets and cracking sounds comes from the switch it�s a frustrating guitar to play.
My friend bought it for around $2000 and to give over $100.000 for a guitar is completely madness in my book. If not for investment of course.
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gurran1928
Gold Member
Sweden
650 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2007 : 08:35:18
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| It probably is that expensive because manny sell it, but the next seller will probably don't get 75% of that price.. |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2007 : 13:36:06
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^^^^ jack, i think Roy Buchanan is the one who used to strip down his body of parts, tie it to the back of his motorcycle and drive around the streets of LA for that "reclic" look |
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guirat
Silver Member
United Kingdom
186 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2007 : 19:25:41
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Pulling a guitar behind your own motorbike is one thing, paying someone else extra money to relic (damage) your guitar at the factory is something I'll never understand.
I think the guitars listed above have passed beyond being mere musical instruments, into that twilight zone known as speculative collecting.
I wouldn't feel right playing a guitar that cost that much, even if I could afford to. A quote I remember from another forum, "Better to make your own new memories than buy someone else's old ones" - at that sort of price I think that applies, better to buy a new guitar and let it age right along beside you. |
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