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visserman
Platinum Member
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 Posted - 01/12/2009 : 15:11:54
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Strange question?
Maybe, but then what is strange eh?
I tend to use it for listening to the repeats: I may play chords, mute my sound and listen to the repeats, I may play a riff and do the same. There are times I just keep playing without muting [or stopping] the sound, and with this approach a delay makes your sound bigger, but then a Reverb does as well.
I also like to bring the delay in and out, as I like to have different soundscapes in the songs. Yes it is an ongoing tapfest here. I still need to experiment seriously with a multieffector or a pod or anything of that kind, but I think I probably like the tapfest of the single pedals.
As for delay I tend to use a DD-2 but, off course, for this particular purpose you can use any delay.
I have to say that delay is one of those pedals which some people use, but you never notice them using it, as they use it more to thicken up their sound rather as an "effect". I am in both camps, but I tend to use my pedals more for the "effect" as that is what I am looking for in the songs, just a little something which brings out an intro or solo or a little soundburst in a song. |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2009 : 15:42:44
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| I like a little compressed slapback but have most recently cranked up the delay time & practice soundscape picking like Floyd or U2. |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2009 : 18:51:14
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I also use slapback echo of about 100ms, or a longer lead guitar echo of about 400ms.
I have both level and repeat at 10 o'clock on a DD-3.
I also like how you can harmonize yourself over a longer delay, by playing a note and then playing the harmony when the delay repeats the first note. |
Edited by - Dirk on 01/12/2009 18:52:23 |
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The_Doc
Gold Member
United Kingdom
509 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2009 : 20:52:28
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I tend to use delays to increase the impact of a solo. We rock up an old Beatles cover (called 'You Can't Do That') and I bring in a DM-2 set for a single, short repeat for the solo to give it a different / rockabilly feel. I run it through the parallel effects loop on a Marshall JVM (as I do with all my delay and modulation effects). I can remember on a couple of occasions people from the audience mentioning it - so it must have had an impact.
In a covers band not doing any Pink Floyd or John Martyn (remember him - the king of the delay on an acoustic guitar and any other effect known to man!), at the moment, I get precious few opportunities to run longer delays but on a G 'n R version of 'Knockin' on Heaven's Door' that we do, I do kick in a c. 250 - 300 ms delay with a very low mix (I use a DD-5 for this but will be changing to a DD-7 soon - on order!). Again, this makes the intro to the solo and subsequent licks a bit different and, for some strange reason, it always works better when we do outdoor gigs.
I can also get a similar effect using reverb. We do a song called 'Black Velvet' where the solo comes in after a stop in the song with a clean 'stratty' type run - bang in the reverb (reasonably high mix set for it) and heavy compression at the same time and instant impact. I use the reverb on the JVM - not bad - much better than I thought it would be.
Hope this helps.  |
Edited by - The_Doc on 01/12/2009 20:53:25 |
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silvertone6120
Gold Member
USA
609 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2009 : 22:37:39
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I've toned down my delay use(no pun intended) lately.
I used an RE-20 for awhile, alternating from short to long delay. But lately I've went back to an old DM-2.
To go into some detail, ordinarily during the meat of a song I don't use delay. Then when it's time for a (clean)solo I'll kick in about 125ms delay(a little longer than a slapback technically, but just enough to fatten up the tone). Sometimes I'll also use delay on overdriven things too.
For some songs I'll twirl the rate knob all the way around as far as it'll go(about 300ms) for long spacey echo on some of the more airy, dreamy type things. For these I also raise the echo level as well to make sure the delay comes out strong.
That's pretty much all I'm doing with echo right now. Delay is obviously my favorite effect, my desert island pedal if you will. |
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
Silver Member
USA
270 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2009 : 22:43:21
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| I play in a Black Metal band w/out synths or keys and we use delay for leads (of course!) and some of the material calls for synths so we run a few delays @ the same time (RE-20 into DM-2 into MXR CC into DD-3 analog mod) to get that distant eerie and discordant effect on the guitar passages... |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2009 : 23:57:52
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| i use it for more of a reverb echo type sound |
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nion
Silver Member
USA
164 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2009 : 02:39:05
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| Just your standard delay here, with the exception of one interlude where I take my Digitech Digidelay and run it into my Line6 DL-4, which is tapped tempo exactly double of the Digidelay. It makes for some neat ambient/ethereal sounds. |
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ronster
Gold Member
Australia
645 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2009 : 04:56:42
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| I generally use it for the slapback kind of sounds. Sometimes when the mood hits I turn up the delay time and just hit chords and let the delay do the work! |
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kulten
Gold Member
France
516 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2009 : 09:55:19
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| I had a DD-3 ayear, and I used it with the SYB-3, the delay time was sync with the tempo of the drum machine. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2009 : 15:47:40
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mostly for lead to add a bit of ambience...i have one DD-3 set about 350/375ms and the other about 700ms... running one into the other can be good for some stuff,i also set one up for the 'run like hell' type repeats for a intro we do into 'brick in the wall' and as we do a few U2 numbers in the set mostly 'one' 'streets have no name....' and the odd time we do 'new years day' so i set them up as near as i can to Edge's sound.....
The Doc.... i like that song 'black velvet' i also liked the bird that originally sang it in those leather trousers.... ..... |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2009 : 17:31:28
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Alannah Myles, great singer, great looks 
One of my favourite songs as well, I dig the bass on that one.
To get back on topic, it's also very cool to cascade two delays in one another.
For example set one up for 400ms and the 2nd one twice as long to 800ms.
Check out this video on how Brian May uses 2 delays to harmonize with himself, very cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs87GuoOvYo&feature=channel_page |
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Rich_S
Silver Member
USA
219 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2009 : 17:36:01
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| I have two delays. My Rocktron Short Timer is usually set to a short slap for songs that need it - think the Pretenders' "My City Was Gone". The DD-3 is my workhorse; it's used for big-solo echo effects, but more often for rhythmic parts you can't play by hand, ala Andy Summers and The Edge. |
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The_Doc
Gold Member
United Kingdom
509 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2009 : 22:50:07
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Franzoni & Dirk - with you on Alannah Myles lads - very fit indeed and still making music too  However, our vocalist is a 6' 10" tall bloke - so no such luck for us in our band!! 
and, back to topic again...great idea on the cascading delays Dirk - I've never tried that - thanks - I'll do some 'studio experimentation' (ie. mucking around) with it - I best not risk it at a live gig. I guess it creates something similar to a 'multi-head' delay from a Copycat or the like? |
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 13:28:45
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It is interesting to see that many of you use it for similar applications: Reverb, Slap Back echo, To Beef Up Your Sound.
Just a handful of you seem to use it for a more "experimental modes like Harmonizing yourself.
I always feel you can do so much more with a cetain pedal [same goes for songs] I just play and repatch etc. and often stumble upon sounds I did not expect from a particular pedal. |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 17:03:39
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quote:
Originally posted by visserman
I just play and repatch etc. and often stumble upon sounds I did not expect from a particular pedal.
That's cool about pedals instead of a multi FX unit.
I've often wondered: "What if I hook 'em up in this or that order just to see what noise we can create now" and came up with pretty interesting sounds that way, which may not be necesserily usefull, but fun nonetheless |
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How Do You Use Delay in Your Playing Style?
