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DeFrag
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  01:50:20  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ZVex SHO clone from over at the Orange Forum.. very nice job indeed.


Edited by - DeFrag on 08/09/2009 22:04:38

Dr. Bob
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  06:36:54  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi DeFrag

I was wondering if you would be kind enough to put in the link as well?

It would be nice to know if the builder used the 170 or the 7000 FET.
Technically they are interchangeable.

Looks like they used the LED mount to hold the PCB in place.

Both devices are tricky little buggers to bias properly.

Regards De. Bob

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DeFrag
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  07:43:50  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
http://forum.orangeamps.com/viewtopic.php?t=36856
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Laurie
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  14:38:20  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What is the effect?
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Dr. Bob
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  16:44:52  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

What is the effect?


V-Zex "Super Hard On" Clone - FET booster.
It uses a BS170 (2N7000) FET.

From what I have seen to-date, it's the basis of a lot of their other circuits.

He's another link on the Orange forum:
http://forum.orangeamps.com/viewtopic.php?t=36683

Regards Dr. Bob
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Laurie
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  16:48:25  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
THanks! Why do they call the control "crackle"?
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Dr. Bob
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  17:21:05  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

THanks! Why do they call the control "crackle"?


The varying DC across the pot as it is turned, is reproduced as annoying Crackle through the output.

In a real V-Zex SHO; It's actually labeled as "Crackle OK"

This is similar (problem) to the control pot on the Dallas-Arbiter Rangemaster Treble Booster.

Regards Dr. Bob
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Leeroyfunk
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  21:17:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Soulsonic (freestompboxes.org)

I used to think that bias changed as the gain adjusted in an SHO; then I measured it on a breadboard and realized I was mistaken. I believe the Gate Bias divider keeps the bias constant no matter how the Source resistance is set; that's the really clever thing about the original design. As the Source resistance is changed, the bias "wiggles" for a moment and causes the transistor to turn on and off, but after a second, it stabilizes and returns to proper bias... that bias "wiggling" is what causes the crackle. The distortion that happens at high gain is simply because the gain of the circuit is so high that it clips the signal and distorts. The character of the distortion doesn't have that "smashed" quality that you'd hear if the bias was hot.
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zerksies
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  22:43:30  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
looks very simple
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Heart and Soul
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  23:57:37  Show Profile  Visit Heart and Soul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
make me one zerksies...
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zerksies
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  02:15:40  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Heart and Soul

make me one zerksies...



Got a schematic?
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Heart and Soul
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  06:08:28  Show Profile  Visit Heart and Soul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i'm not the one who said it looks easy...

but it's ok, it's the thought that counts...
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Leeroyfunk
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  10:11:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

quote:
Originally posted by Heart and Soul

make me one zerksies...



Got a schematic?



With crackle(original schematic):
http://analogguru.an.ohost.de/001/schematics/Zvex_SHO.gif

Crackle Not OK! (Soulsonic's SHO-style Mosfet boost with no crackle)
http://freestompboxes.org/members/soulsonic/schematic/CrackleNOTokay.GIF

Edited by - Leeroyfunk on 08/10/2009 10:13:35
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Heart and Soul
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  06:40:22  Show Profile  Visit Heart and Soul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well now there's no excuse zerk...
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zerksies
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  16:59:07  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leeroyfunk

quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

quote:
Originally posted by Heart and Soul

make me one zerksies...



Got a schematic?



With crackle(original schematic):
http://analogguru.an.ohost.de/001/schematics/Zvex_SHO.gif

Crackle Not OK! (Soulsonic's SHO-style Mosfet boost with no crackle)
http://freestompboxes.org/members/soulsonic/schematic/CrackleNOTokay.GIF




thanks
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Joske Turbo
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Belgium
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Posted - 08/17/2009 :  21:08:11  Show Profile  Visit Joske Turbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob
From what I have seen to-date, it's the basis of a lot of their other circuits.



Yes, you're right about that. The Box of Rock, for example , is just 3 SHO's cascading into eachother.
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