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Bandmaster
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USA
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Posted - 03/24/2009 :  03:51:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We know that the OD1 and SD1 are based on the famous JRC4558 chip.

But are their siblings the OD2 and SD2 also?

(I can't seem to find on Google or anywhere)

cctsim
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/24/2009 :  04:05:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to the schematics I have, OD2 doesn't contain any opamp-based ICs. It is based on discrete opamps implemented using discrete transistors (2 JFETs + one pnp BJT).

SD2 is using the Mitsubishi 2M5218AL chip.

I hope that helps.
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Bandmaster
Copper Member

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2009 :  17:06:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, thanks. I dont actually have those pedals, I'm using the versions in my old SE70:

http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5402

I've noticed that the SD1 and SD2 sound VERY similar, but the SD1 has that slight tubescreamer-esque "mid hump" whereas the SD2 doesn't. Is that mostly a function of the JRC4558 vs 2M5218AL chip?
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cctsim
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Posted - 03/24/2009 :  19:42:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess with tubescreamer-esque you are referring to the crunch channel of the SD2. The overdrive section is based on the same principle as the SD-1 but using different component values. For instance, SD2 used 2 LEDs and a Si diode for clipping and the frequency cut off is ~50Hz. The SD1 uses 3 Si diodes and a frequency cut off of 720 Hz. Since SD2 covers a wider frequency range the "mid hump" is masked.

I don't think the opamp chip on its own can produce the "mid hump". The difference in sound due to different opamps is a rather a subtle one.

The lead channel is much more complicated and uses also LEDs as clippers.

Edited by - cctsim on 03/24/2009 19:44:34
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