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dani
Copper Member

Singapore
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Posted - 03/15/2009 :  13:26:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just scored a dc-2 and it definitely sound more organic compared to my dc-3. problem is, the dc-2 clips when used in conjunction with my humbucker-equipped guitars. never had this problem with the dc-3.

that said, is there anything i can do to increase the headroom on the dc-2? any modders or mods out there that will/can alleviate the clipping?

btw, folks with a dc-2 how's the headroom on yours?

thanks,
dani

Edited by - dani on 03/15/2009 15:00:21

Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
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Posted - 03/15/2009 :  15:45:23  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi dani and welcome!

The DC-2 and DC-3 are different beasts (DC-2 is completely analogue, and DC-3 has a digital core), so experience with one unfortunately won't be an indicator of experience with the other...

That being said, the DC-2 circuit should have enough headroom to accomodate humbuckers - it's a pretty standard approach that Boss used for years. There is no mod to increase the headroom.

So... clipping is most often caused by low DC voltage - how good is your power supply? Are you using a known good battery or known good Boss PSA power supply?
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2009 :  15:49:12  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi dani

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Regards Dr. Bob
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dani
Copper Member

Singapore
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Posted - 03/15/2009 :  15:52:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the welcome laurie.

i am using a bbe supacharger on 9v for the dc-2. of course, digital will sound more pristine compared to analog but there should be no reason for the dc-2 to clip while using humbuckers unless there is something i am doing wrong?

thanks,
dani


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dani
Copper Member

Singapore
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Posted - 03/15/2009 :  15:53:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi dani

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Regards Dr. Bob



thanks for the welcome doc!
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
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Posted - 03/15/2009 :  16:14:00  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dani

thanks for the welcome laurie.

i am using a bbe supacharger on 9v for the dc-2. of course, digital will sound more pristine compared to analog but there should be no reason for the dc-2 to clip while using humbuckers unless there is something i am doing wrong?

thanks,
dani

Hi dani! Do you have some way of checking the DC voltage going in to the DC-2? Or maybe if you can a fresh, known good battery and try that? Just want to eliminate that first (it's the most obvious).
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 03/15/2009 :  16:24:07  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi dani

Forgot top ask you, if your humbuckers are active or passive.
And just while we're at it, which brand & make are they?

was there any possibility that someone may have tweaked/played with, the trim pots inside your DC-2?

Regards Dr. Bob
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dani
Copper Member

Singapore
12 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2009 :  17:15:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[/quote]
Hi dani! Do you have some way of checking the DC voltage going in to the DC-2? Or maybe if you can a fresh, known good battery and try that? Just want to eliminate that first (it's the most obvious).
[/quote]

i can try a battery and post the findings.
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dani
Copper Member

Singapore
12 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2009 :  17:18:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi dani

Forgot top ask you, if your humbuckers are active or passive.
And just while we're at it, which brand & make are they?

was there any possibility that someone may have tweaked/played with, the trim pots inside your DC-2?

Regards Dr. Bob



mostly passives around the 10k to 14k resistance.

there's a chance someone tweak the pots in there since i got it used. is there a way to reset it?
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2009 :  17:41:10  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dani
there's a chance someone tweak the pots in there since i got it used. is there a way to reset it?


The trimpots can be reset... but needs special tools, and we don't have the service notes for a DC-2 - so it's a bit of guesswork, but not impossible. What the trim pots set is the "BBD operating point" - this will definitely cause clipping if it's wrong. That's the second most likely cause after the power supply.

Can youi confirm - this pedal is new to you and it has had the problem the entire time you've had it?

Here is what we are talking about with the trimpots:
http://members.shaw.ca/lauriepedals/CE2trimpot

If you follow the link to the service notes you will see the clipping waveforms that occur when the trimpot is improperly set.

Edited by - Laurie on 03/15/2009 17:45:10
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dani
Copper Member

Singapore
12 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2009 :  18:02:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes. i bought it used and it has been clipping with humbuckers when i got it. perfectly fine with single coils and even p90s.

Edited by - dani on 03/15/2009 18:03:58
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svengali
Bronze Member

Australia
111 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2009 :  04:16:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i once had the same problem...worked fine for single coils...clipped when used with humbuckers ( ph 1)
some fool had changed one of the electrolytic polarised caps for a green poly bipolar.
what an utter fool.
anyway, i just fitted the correct polarised electrolytic and fixed it.

the thing is it was an easy fix as i had another ph 1 close by..
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2009 :  04:18:42  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dani
i can try a battery and post the findings.


How did the test go?
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dani
Copper Member

Singapore
12 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2009 :  16:50:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

quote:
Originally posted by dani
i can try a battery and post the findings.


How did the test go?



no good. guess its not the power supply.
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2009 :  17:30:30  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK, so it probably is the trim pots. Do you have access to an oscilloscope?
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dani
Copper Member

Singapore
12 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2009 :  17:35:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

OK, so it probably is the trim pots. Do you have access to an oscilloscope?



i can try asking around. what do i have to look out for?
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