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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
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 Posted - 07/20/2009 : 13:46:24
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+1 on the tone-knob placement.
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jsoi_narciso
Silver Member
Philippines
200 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2009 : 14:38:03
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Originally posted by chrissydamage
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
Hi chrissydamage
Any chance you might pat all the sound files into a single ZIP?
I know it won't compress the MP3's, but it's much easier to download a single file.
Thanks.
Regards Dr. Bob 
No Problem; check here for the zipped version
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=28fc808d447a34118ef1259ff1b60e8176108135211bf582b8eada0a1ae8665a
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2009 : 17:56:19
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Thanks for the comments people keep them coming......
My silver screw long dash arrived today; so now have the complete compliment of DS-1s (got a modded one too; might test that for good measure also)
Reading the comments seems like the samples need a bit of work:
Might make the next sample comprise palm mutings with different velocities, a chord and a pinch harmonic or something; think that would be sufficient to tell the difference? I'm trying to keep it simple; playing the serrana arpeggios or whatever at warp speed might sound cool but would not really be very useful for comparison in this exercise.
I could even use a non-guitar sample to see if that makes it any easier to tell the difference; I bet the Amen break would sound pretty hard though the DS-1 and could be a good choice for comparing?
And yes I am aware this whole thing might seem like quite an anorak thing to do to some; and maybe the DS-1 isn't the best pedal to compare anyway. If I do better samples and better graphs and still no-one can tell the difference then that would prove a point in itself I guess :)
Theres too much opinionated and subjective stuff written about Boss pedals in reviews all over the internet; at worst its probably written by a kid who doesn't even own the item in question; at best you are relying on someone else's hearing when they had an MIT back in '84 and the MIJ in '89 or whatever and the MIJ definately sounded better to their ears....... Wouldn't it be nice if we could all hear the differences for ourselves over the internet instead of having to buy off ebay blind or rely on the advice of some cloth-eared anonymous amateur off a well known review site to make our purchases.
Let me know any ideas/thoughts/anything on how to make the next test the definative one;
Regards
Chrissy
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jsoi_narciso
Silver Member
Philippines
200 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2009 : 18:13:45
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pls update me for your new samples  |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2009 : 23:03:24
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Hmmmmm just been playing with my new (old) DS-1; this ones from july 1980 and guess what; sounds totally different again :)
One thing is very clear though; the DS-1 MIT silver label is absolutely PANTS. I was getting some considerable feedback and hiss through the chain (6 pedals) somewhere, I disconnected one of the MITs and the noise reduced somewhat, removed the other one and the noise totally disappeared. I patched them back in with other pedals and it was fine again, but it seems if you use a newer MIT DS-1 with any more than 4 other pedals in the chain the signal degradation is so bad your guitar becomes practically unplayable, even with the DS-1 switched off. Quality!!
I see why the older ss DS-1s ones have a lot of fans; the 1980 has quite a nice crunch to it which makes it stand out from the others, the 1981 sounds quite compressed and tight too, but in a different way; din't like the MIJ 1984 short dash much.......
I think really this pedal is not for me at all though, the black label MIT seems like the most powerful one but think they are all a little underpowered for my tastes. One for the rock/blues players perhaps? Not really metal enough for my liking.
I will have some more samples tomorrow hopefully; I hope I can more successfully demonstrate the differences this time ;)
And I've given up on the Amen break; that was a truly ridiculous idea
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DasBeef
Gold Member
United Kingdom
704 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2009 : 23:46:34
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Originally posted by chrissydamage
One for the rock/blues players perhaps? Not really metal enough for my liking.
I'm playing mostly bluesy or rock stuff. I occaisionally dabble a little heavier, but not quite into metal. The MIJ long dash is a great pedal for the sound I'm after, but I wouldn't reccomend it for metal. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2009 : 00:39:43
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| I still have my MIJ black label DS-1..good pedal but to be honest i went away from boss distortion/overdrives a few years ago... but i still have it and wouldn't sell it........ |
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DasBeef
Gold Member
United Kingdom
704 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2009 : 21:34:16
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Originally posted by DasBeef
You're baiting me to buy a MIT black label aren't you?
From personal experience, the long dash MIJ is the best. I haven't tried a black label MIT though.
Well, the baiting worked. An early MIT DS-1 popped up on eBay, with no interest, so I got it for the starting bid. Only thing, it's got the Monte Allums Tri Gain Rectifier Mod in it. Soon I will also have a later MIT with a Seeing Eye Ultra mod in it, taking my DS-1 total to four. Some A/B/C/D-ing to be done I think....
Still think this forum should come with a disclaimer which should read....
'A common side effect of joining this forum is a serious case of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome), which can result in financial difficulties, holy grail tone quests, obsessive behavior, elitist attitudes, the destruction of relationships, divorce, and ultimately death from not owning that silver screw long dash model.
The owner/webmaster of this site cannot be held liable in anyway if members suffer any form of the aforementioned side effect.
Please enjoy BossArea responsibly...'
Please tick the box to say you have read, and agreed [] |
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Ollie
Gold Member
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2009 : 23:17:40
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archimedes
Silver Member
United Kingdom
191 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2009 : 23:45:09
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Originally posted by Ollie
I agree with you mate, I'm becoming a tone snob, at 14!
I don't think (good) tone is something that you can be a snob about, it's something to work at and make your own. You can be a gear snob though, harping on about this being better than that because it costs more, is boutique, so and so uses it, whatever. Don't forget that the great rock records made 65 - 75 were done with minimal and simplistic guitar rigs comprising a lot of mostly stock gear, Townshends sound on Who's Next for example.
David
p.s. I am not saying that great rock records were only made 65 -75 but that's a defining era, especially for guitar sounds |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2009 : 00:56:46
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Still think this forum should come with a disclaimer which should read....
'A common side effect of joining this forum is a serious case of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome), which can result in financial difficulties, holy grail tone quests, obsessive behavior, elitist attitudes, the destruction of relationships, divorce, and ultimately death from not owning that silver screw long dash model.
The owner/webmaster of this site cannot be held liable in anyway if members suffer any form of the aforementioned side effect.
Please enjoy BossArea responsibly...'
Please tick the box to say you have read, and agreed []
Lol so true, think I've been suffering from that for a while :)
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2009 : 02:06:22
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| but is there really a bad ds-1 |
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jsoi_narciso
Silver Member
Philippines
200 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2009 : 07:14:35
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| it depends on what a player want |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2009 : 10:04:39
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Originally posted by zerksies
but is there really a bad ds-1
well no, all DS-1s are equal
......but some are definately more equal than others ;) |
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Take the DS-1 Challenge!! Which one is best?
